8,240 thoughts on “Greatest Warrior of All Time

  1. Aaj ka yeh post un ullu ke pattho ko samarpit hai jo mante nahi ki Arjuna defeated Karna 7 time ie arjuna vs Karna 7 0 in Arjunas favour…..

    Niraj, be careful with your insulting remarks(started by you), because u already know to what extent these “insulting remarks” can go between us…..

    Your statement-“Actually the Result is 2 0 in Karnas favour”

    My ans- Ha…ha…ha…. Ha…ha…ha….

    Your statement-“Draupadis swayamvara arjuna declared himself Hijda after Karna equaled Brahmin No result”

    My ans- Personal opinion….. Hence invalid….

    Your statement-“Virata yudha dismissed as supernatural”

    My ans- Ha…ha…ha…. NZ player still crying for his world cup loss…!! Who cares…..

    Your statement-“Jayadratha vadha defeats all those were just upperhand ie chariot breaking and Karna changing chariot”

    My ans- Personal opinion….. Hence invalid….

    Your statement-“Karna screwing bhima and arjuna interfering cant be counted as victory.”

    My ans- Sorry, you yourself credited that victory on Arjun’s account, because ACCORDING TO YOU, Bhima was totally helpless at that time…..

    Your statement-“Final battle when weaponed Arjuna rendered unconcisous by Karna arjuna balls hanging out.”

    My ans- Irrelevant point….

    Your statement-“After karna dropped weapons killed unarmed Karna”

    My ans- Prove that Karna was unarmed when Arjun killed Karna, otherwise DONT TALK IN AIR Mr sour loser……

    Your statement-“below he got thrashed along with his worthless brothers.Arjuna defeat 1”

    My ans- Ha…ha…ha…. Typical NZ player crying…… I dont see any name of Arjun in those passages…..

    Your statement-“Second defeat Arjuna taken away from battle field bhargavastra episode.”

    My ans- Ha…ha…ha…. Ha…ha…ha…. Ha…ha…ha…. Ha…ha…ha…. Ha…ha…ha…. Ha…ha…ha…. Ha…ha…ha…. Hilarous joke from Niraj-Puraan….. Ha…ha…ha…. Ha…ha…ha…. Ha…ha…ha….

    Your statement-“Not on my pravachan kya bol raho two fake victories over Karna were in tune with your pravachan and KMG Vyasa ditto for all these so called victories of bhima over Karna”

    My ans- Ha…ha…ha…. NZ player shouting over Match refree(Vyas) for awarding the victory to Australia, because NZ player DO NOT AGREE with the rules of win/loss in cricket…… Who cares….. Bhima’s two victories over Karna stands as fact as ever……

    Your statement-“Shalya parva section 62 is not supernatural as you were blabbering Its possible in real life as well. Type Syrian Tank Explodes – crew survives you tube”

    My ans- Ha…ha…ha…. Non-contextual example….. Supernatural Shalya parva section 62 says: Karna/Bhishm/Drona fired weapons on Arjun’s Car many days before, but the car of Arjun exploded only AFTER Krishna left the car on 18th day…..!! Although Krishna left the car every day of 18 days of war, but it exploded only on 18th day ????

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  2. Sachin the last nail in your coffin Shalya parva section 62 is not supernatural as you were blabbering Its possible in real life as well. Type Syrian Tank Explodes – crew survives you tube

    Syrian Tank Explodes – crew survives you tube
    Syrian Tank crew survives, after their BMP2 gets blown up by the FSA. The tank sustained significant damage, but was recovered. Although not confirmed, it appears that the explosion was caused by a planted IED

    End of debate Arjuna chariot was caused planted astras and later Krishna detected it and saved Arjunas worthless hide causing his chariot to burn like Syrian tank. You too had given some worthless war examples to support virata yudha I too am doing the same so please don’t start boohooing.

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  3. Sachin Ok saw this worthless statement of your Bhima’s 2 victories over Karna on day 14 have been proved on the basis of Vyas MB(& these are not my pravachann)….
    My ans Not on my pravachan kya bol raho two fake victories over Karna were in tune with your pravachan and KMG Vyasa ditto for all these so called victories of bhima over Karna

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  4. Aaj ka yeh post un ullu ke pattho ko samarpit hai jo kehte hain ki Arjuna defeated Karna 7 time ie arjuna vs Karna 7 0 in Arjunas favour.

    Actually the Result is 2 0 in Karnas favour
    Draupadis swayamvara arjuna declared himself Hijda after Karna equaled Brahmin No result
    Virata yudha dismissed as supernatural
    Jayadratha vadha defeats all those were just upperhand ie chariot breaking and Karna changing chariot just like bhima jumping on Nakuls chariot and that’s not defeat. Bhima was described as roaring lion.
    Karna screwing bhima and arjuna interfering cant be counted as victory.
    Final battle when weaponed Arjuna rendered unconcisous by Karna arjuna balls hanging out. After karna dropped weapons killed unarmed Karna Hence Arjuna never defeated karna in his career and below he got thrashed along with his worthless brothers
    Arjuna defeat 1
    O monarch, with all the kings (on the Pandava side) and those mighty car-warriors–the Pandavas themselves, all rushed against Karna only. Like the mountain receiving a vast body of water, Karna, unaided by anyone, received in that battle all those advancing warriors filled with joy and longing for victory. Those mighty car-warriors encountering Karna, were beat off and broken like a mass of water, and beat back on all sides when it encounters a mountain.
    Second defeat Arjuna taken away from battle field bhargavastra episode.
    Hence Karna defeated Arjuna twice and arjuna never defeated Karna in his career in fair fight.

    Above points can be proven from KMG Vyasa. I have passages ready.

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  5. Sachin stop dancing naked on KMG Vyasas name. You yourself don’t believe in KMG vyasa your ranting is on KMG vyasa and your own santvaani pravachan like see what actually happened laws of nature etc and I used your own logic, pravachan + KMG Vyasa to nullify your points. So stop pretending a like aussie crickter especially when you are not even a Bangladeshi. Arjuna 7 0 bhima 4 0 or whatever took place in your imagination. Didn’t bother to read the rest of your third class post.

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  6. Some dumb idiot is still refuting the fact that arjuna vs karna 7:0 & bhima vs karna 4:0…..

    @ Niraj,

    Your statement-“my ranking is based in vyasa mb”

    My ans- Vyas MB or “Niraj-Puraan” ?? Ha…ha…ha…. This is just like Pak saying that he does not support terrorist groups….. Ha…ha…ha…. Who cares what Nawaz Shariff says….. !!

    Your statement-“my criteria is subduing opponent when opponent is in full form.”

    My ans- Ha…ha…ha…. This is just like NZ player saying that whichever Team makes lesser runs in the match, wins the cricket match & the world cup…… Ha…ha…ha…. Who cares Mr NZ player what your criteria is…. Because the world does not think so…. Huh…

    Your statement-“a nalla warrior like arjuna who got raped by ordinary bandits”

    My ans- PURE LIE….. Prove it from KMG or DONT TALK IN AIR…..

    Your statement-“Indrajeet did manage some fluke victory over Rama. But Rama was on his feet in a jiffy. Lakshmana needed some external help on one occasion. but indrajeets failure to duplicate his feat gives him the boot.”

    My ans- Indrajeet defeated & almost killed Ram/Laxman by his Naagpash…. Indrajeet again defeated & almost killed Laxman next day & Laxman would have been dead if Hanuman had not brought the Sanjeevani….. And u call these victories fluke ?? Typical NZ players’ behaviour…..

    Your statement-“he did make do some chariot changing on Karna ie broke karnas chariots and karna doing chariot change a fact in tune with your pravachan and what actually happened in KMG vyasa. but that doesn’t make him victorious over karna or great.”

    My ans- Ha…ha…ha…. NZ player still crying for his lost world cup….. Who cares….. Bhima’s 2 victories over Karna on day 14 have been proved on the basis of Vyas MB(& these are not my pravachann)…. So who cares what a sour loser like u says…..

    Niraj, your Sour loser attitude has been exposed here, because u FAILED to give VALID explainations to your FUNNY & rubbish rankings…… So my ranking ON THE BASIS OF VYAS MB, stays as the real truth……

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  7. my criteria is subduing opponent when opponent is in full form. hence a nalla warrior like arjuna who got raped by ordinary bandits shows in my list. otherwise I wouldn’t have even bothered to write his name in top 20 leave alone top 15. Indrajeet did manage some fluke victory over Rama. But Rama was on his feet in a jiffy. Lakshmana needed some external help on one occasion. but indrajeets failure to duplicate his feat gives him the boot. bhima who gut his bum kicked by bhagdatta kritvera alayayudha also didn’t get any mention. he did make do some chariot changing on Karna ie broke karnas chariots and karna doing chariot change a fact in tune with your pravachan and what actually happened in KMG vyasa. but that doesn’t make him victorious over karna or great. hence he too got the boot.

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  8. I believe there are some dum idiots who bleive Arjun/Bhima inferior to Karna, because the fact is:

    Arjun vs Karna = 7:0
    Bhima vs Karna = 4:0

    and some dum idiots still believe Arjun/Bhima inferior to Karna….. !! Ha..ha..ha..ha…
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    @ Niraj,

    Niraj, would you please give valid explainations to your funny rankings……

    And why didnt Indrajeet find any place in your funny ranking, when he had defeated your top ranker-Ram & Laxman as well….??

    And my ranking is based on Vyas MB only….. Unlike yours which is based on Niraj-Puraan…..

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    1. some dumb idiots believe arjuna vs karna 70 bhima vs karna . Sachin this must have happened in your imagination. my ranking is based in vyasa mb and in complete coordination with your pravachan.

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  9. Dear Friends,
    So at the end of our discussion, we have all come to conclusion that the all time top 15 list of Greatest Warrior is:

    1. Rama
    2. Krishna
    3. Parshuram
    4. Lakshman
    5. Balarama
    6. Karna
    7. Bheeshma
    8. Drona
    9. Ashwatthama
    10. Abhimanyu
    12. Arjuna
    13. Duryodhana
    14. Bhagdatta
    15. Kritverma

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  10. I believe there are some dum idiots who bleive Rama inferior to Lakshamana Indrajeet had knocked out Rama and Lakshamana killed Indrajeet hence Lakshmanan > Indrajeet>Rama
    Ramayana mentiones Ravana also had knocked out Lakshamana and Rama had killed Ravana. Hence Rama >Lakshmana> Ravana

    Below are passages

    Lakshmana then saw Ravana with arms as large as the trunks of elephants, who was brandishing his dreadful and fiery bow, covering those monkeys whose bodies he had severed with a close rain of darts.

    Lakshmana of indomitable courage spoke to that Ravana who was lifting up his unfathomable bow (as follows): “O, King of Demons! Now enter into combat with me; cease from fighting with the monkeys!”
    Thus accosted, the King of Demons, infuriated, loosened seven marvellously plumed arrows which Lakshmana shattered with his beautiful golden-shafted arrows of sharp ends and edges.
    Beholding those arrows shattered like great cobras with their hoods shattered, Ravana got angry and loosened other sharp arrows
    Lakshmana, however, caused a well-aimed rain of missiles from his bow to fall on Ravana and nay, even broke Ravana’s arrows with his arrows called Khura, Ardhachandra, the excellent Karni and Bhalla. He did not feel perturbed.
    Lakshmana, the equal of Mahendra the Lord of celestials, fixing some sharpened arrows, swift as lightning and of blazing effulgence on his bow-string, discharged them on Ravana in order to strike him down.
    Whereupon, Ravana the King of Demons shattered those pointed arrows and struck Lakshmana in the forehead with a struck Lakshmana in the forehead with a shaft as bright as the Fire of Time, which had been bestowed on him by Brahma the Lord of Creation.
    Struck by Ravana’s arrow, Lakshmana reeled a little and was scarcely able to retain his bow. But, coming to his consciousness with difficulty, he shattered that weapon belonging to Ravana, Indra’s enemy.
    Then, Lakshmana the son of Dasaratha struck Ravana, whose bow was broken, with three pointed darts. The king, pierced by those arrows, swooned and regained his senses with difficulty.

    Ravana the Lord of the country of demons hurled with strength on Lakshmana, that blazing spear, emitting smoke and as bright as fire, frightening the monkeys in the fray.

    Lakshmana the younger brother of Bharata struck that weapon falling upon him with arrows and darts, as if it were a sacrificial fire. Nevertheless, that spear entered Lakshmana’s broad chest.
    The mighty Lakshmana, struck by the spear, lay on the earth, breathing fire.

    Above Lakshamnana knocked out by Ravana

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  11. Dear Friends,

    So at the end of our discussion, we have all come to conclusion that the all time top 15 list of Greatest Warrior is:

    1. Arjun
    2. Bhishma
    3. Parshuram
    4. Lakshman
    5. Indrajeet
    6. Bali
    7. Ram
    8. Drona
    9. Abhimanyu
    10. Bhima
    11. Satyaki
    12. Ashwatthama
    13. Karna
    14. Krishna
    15. Balrama

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  12. Sachin -“my refutation of bhimas victories over karna in accordance with your pravachan that’s a fact dear bangladeshi so I suggest you learn to live with it. Virata yudha dismissed as supernatural. Arjuna liked Karna is fact from KMG Vyasa and from KMG Vyasa yes it was not unfairs as krishna saved arjuna shalya parva. You say its not possible as you don’t believe in supernatural and made claim Karna killed fairly you proove dude.

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    1. @ Niraj,

      Ha…ha…ha…. NZ player still crying after the World cup loss…. & asking the Australia team to prove that they won the World cup…. Ha…ha…ha….

      Your statement-” Arjuna liked Karna is fact from KMG Vyasa and from KMG Vyasa yes it was not unfairs as krishna saved arjuna shalya parva. You say its not possible as you don’t believe in supernatural and made claim Karna killed fairly you proove dude.”

      My ans- Ha…ha…ha…. NZ player still crying & claiming that he won the World cup….!! Who cares….. Ab ye shalya Parva(Chariot burning) bich mein kahan se aa gaya ??? You claimed that “Arjun killed Karna Unfairly”, hence the onus is on you to prove YOUR CLAIM on practical grounds…. Shalya Parva(Chariot burning) is Invalid point…..

      Your statement-“Virata yudha dismissed as supernatural.”

      My ans- Ha…ha…ha…. NZ player still crying & claiming that he won the World cup….!! Who cares….. Ha…ha…ha…. Niraj, u are getting hilarious(& childish like Sanjay) day by day….. Ha…ha…ha….

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      1. Nope still laughing and congratulating you on your mungerilal victory and Bangladeshi status. I am sorry however I try I can get as hilarious and childish as you.

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  13. @ Niraj,

    Your statement-“my refutation of bhimas victories over karna in accordance with your pravachan”

    My ans- Ha…ha…ha…. NZ player still crying for his loss….. who cares….!!

    Your statement-“Since you have skipped virata yudha in your (noncontextual rubbish post ) tks for acknowledging that its supernatural.”

    My ans- Ha…ha…ha…. NZ player still crying for his loss….. who cares….!! You failed to prove virata yudh as supernatural, so stop crying…..

    Your statement-“ok since I respect laws of nature I and acknowledge that maharathi needs his weapons hence deviate from my statement that karna was killed in fair fight as per kmg. now with debate with your call of nature prove karna was killed fairly.”

    My ans- Let me simplify this arguement…. Arjun killed Karna is a FACT of MB… but it was you who claimed that “Arjun killed Karna unfairly”… Hence the onus is on you to prove your claim…. Which u have failed to do so far & instead asking me like a sour loser to do your job…. Huh…

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  14. my refutation of bhimas victories over karna in accordance with your pravachan mr. Sachin – Bangladeshi. and thats the truth since ( other wise you would have given relevent passages to proove it and the lord knows how you tired and failed )you called me ignorant ie personal remark hence its payback time buddy let me call you an idiotic Bangladeshi. Since you have skipped virata yudha in your (noncontextual rubbish post ) tks for acknowledging that its supernatural. and ok since I respect laws of nature I and acknowledge that maharathi needs his weapons hence deviate from my statement that karna was killed in fair fight as per kmg. now with debate with your call of nature prove karna was killed fairly.

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  15. @ Niraj,

    Your statement-“My refutation of fake victories of bhima over Karna is in accorance with your pravachan what actually happned.”

    My ans- Pure LIE….. Poor Niraj, left with no other option then to LIE….. Ha.ha…ha…. According to rules of war(& this is not my pravachann as you say), retreating from an active battle is a DEFEAT….. And Karna indeed retreated from an active battle, hence DEFEATED….. So stop crying Mr NZ player….

    Your statement-“Since you came in with your call of nature and screwed mb then I had to come to your level.”

    My ans- Listen Mr ignorant NZ player, the LAWS OF NATURE are made by the Almighty God himself, so who are you or Vyas to go against it….. Are u trying to go AGAINST the almighty himself ?? Ye to Khuda se takkar lene waali baat ho gayi….. And you call yourself an “Aastiik” ?? Huh…..

    Further, u have proved that you are not at all CAPABLE to argue with me on practical grounds….. Poor Niraj (Who took on Chiraan & his followers) has lost his CAPABILITIES….!! Ha.ha…ha….

    Your statement-“And then I must have said Karna killed unfairly.”

    My ans- Ahaa….. Ab aaya Ooth pahaad ke niche…. So Dear Niraj, prove this from KMG or DONT TALK IN AIR….. Otherwise your claim is Punctured…..

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  16. My refutation of fake victories of bhima over Karna is in accorance with your pravachan what actually happned. So stop crying like a bangladeshi. I have been in this blog since you were in diapers. As per pure KMG vyasa MB there is no such thing as an unarmed maharathi Ashwatthama made weapon out of grass blade. Real reason why Karna dies is Krishna protected arjuna from divyastra shalya parva section 62. Since you came in with your call of nature and screwed mb then I had to come to your level. And then I must have said Karna killed unfairly. So now since this blog has reduced by you and your call of nature you proove Karna was killed fairly.

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  17. @ Niraj,

    Your statement-“all bhimas victories were either chariot change of karna turning back for new equipment just as bhima turned back to hide behind elephant.”

    My ans- Ha.ha…ha…. Sour loser NZ player still crying …. Sorry, we are not here to discuss on the basis of “Niraj-Puraan”…… It is so funny to see that you have resorted to LYING in order to defend Karna’s defeats….. Your “chariot change” EXCUSE is NON-CONTEXTUAL, Because Karna LEFT THE ACTIVE BATTLE, so whether he left for “chariot change” or to have Lunch is NON-CONTEXTUAL, because it still proves his defeat…..

    And bhima may have turned back to hide behind elephant, but he NEVER LEFT THE ACTIVE BATTLE…. SO keep crying Mr NZ player, because nobody cares… Aus is the champ(i.e. me)😉 …..

    And you cowardly dodged my question: Do you mean to say that you NEVER claimed that “Arjun killed Karna UNFAIRLY” ???

    So What happened to the great Niraj (Who took on Chiraan & his followers) ?? Ha.ha…ha…. Running away doom-dabaa ke from my question ??? Ha.ha…ha…. Ha.ha…ha…. Poor Niraj….. Still waiting for your answer…..

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  18. @ Niraj,

    Behaving like a sour loser & coming back with the same lost debate wont change anything Niraj Miyaan……

    Your statement-“You had made the claim that Karna was killed fairly you validate your claim.”

    My ans- So you mean to say that you NEVER claimed that “Arjun killed Karna UNFAIRLY” ??? Although i already won this debate but let me have some more fun with you…..

    Your statement-“Arjunas rape by dacoits already proven.”

    My ans- Pure Punctured LIE……

    Your statement-“bhima arjuna victories over Karna mere chariot change at kurukshetra in tune with your pravachan see what has actually happened.”

    My ans- Ha..ha..ha… This is just like NZ player saying since MP got floods this year, hence we won the World Cup…!! Ha..ha..ha…

    And as proved earlier, On the basis of Vyas MB (& My Pravachann), Bhima’s 2 victories on Day 2 proved…. Your “Chariot change” EXCUSE is from “Niraj-Puraan”….. Ha..ha..ha…

    Foot note: When Niraj FAILED to prove his points ON THE BASIS OF VYAS MB, then Niraj started giving references from “Niraj-Puraan” & claiming that those references are My Pravachann….!! Ha..ha..ha… Ha..ha..ha… Poor Loser…..

    Niraj, deep inside your brain you yourself know that you cannot win this debate with me ON THE BASIS OF VYAS MB(Practical aspects offcourse), hence instead of behaving like a sour loser, be a man enough to accept your defeat, instead of writing “Niraj-Puraan”….. I really feel pity looking at your DESPERATE behaviour… I have never seen u so much desperate since the time i joined this blog…..

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    1. my comments are in tune with your pravachan. ie karnas defeat by bhima only chariot change. ditto for arjuna at kuukshetra.and you quoting vyasa MB is practical aspects virata yudha punctured. you are caught in your own trap sachin. I pity your Bangladeshi status. which < new zealand

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  19. Sachin I have a challenge for you. Why don’t we continue our debate on True meaning of gar. This blog hardly anyone comes. Sanjay as you yourself have observed is absconding. True meaning of Gar is not Karna biased. You did get a chance to present your views. I have recomened this blog also. Why don’t we continue there. Awaiting your response

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    1. I dont see any point in going to True meaning of gar for debate because there is hardly any other blogger in “True meaning of gar” who has visited that blog since last 2 years….

      Atleast in this “Greatest warrior” blog we get occasional visiters in other sections like “Arjun vs Karna final war” blog etc……

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  20. @ Sanjay,

    Arey Kya hua Sanjay Miyaan ?? No reply to my previous post by you ?? Have you accepted your defeat ?? Great…!!
    Poor Sanjay… He also got Booted away from this blog by me…… Ha..ha..ha…ha..ha….

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      1. Ha.ha…ha… Ek Loser ko kuch puchho to doosra Loser jawaab detaa hai……. But jab MB ke baare mein kuch puchho to dono Loser gaayab ho jaate hai, aur vaapis aake kehte hai ki “We are the winners…We are the winners..”… Ha.ha…ha… So funny…..

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        1. yes that’s right. winner of the mungerial award is for you. congrats on the fake victory of the umpteenth time. mb ke saari points have been cleared and you have been soundly beaten by your own logic. right from karna the king of anga undefeated by bhima the nanga at rajsuya yagya. virata yudha and bhima arjunas victories of over karna being just karna chariot change – coinciding with your pravachan see what actually has happened. by the way still waiting for you to validate your claim Karna was killed by arjuna in fair fight

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          1. Ha.ha…ha… Sorry Niraj, we are not here to discuss on the basis of “Niraj-Puraan”…. And Vyas MB clearly mentions Arjun vs Karna= 7:0 … & Bhima vs Karna= 7:0 …… & Karna also got his butt kicked by Abhimanyu, Satyaki, Gandharvas, Gatotkach, Drupad etc….

            By the way, i m still waiting for you to validate your claim Karna was killed by arjuna unfairly….

            And who cares what a lost NZ player says, because Aus is the champ….. Ha.ha…ha…

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            1. Sachin. my reply was in accordance with the holy pravachan of swami sachinanda ie sachin the Bangladeshi who thinks he is Australian. You had made the claim that Karna was killed fairly you validate your claim. Bhima got his butt kicked by bhurishrava alayudha testicles chopped by kritverma and his balls hanging and rolling all over kurukshetra. Arjunas rape by dacoits already proven. bhima arjuna victories over Karna mere chariot change at kurukshetra in tune with your pravachan see what has actually happened.
              Foot note For a person who has written Sachin puraan supported by call of nature followed by see what has actually happed you are not authorized to sing the glories of KMG.

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  21. Mr. Sachin a query for you. On rediff I am getting messages some one has requested a change of password on your Facebook. Are you that person ? Maine to aisa koi request nahee kiya and as of now ie my current status you are the only person hostile to me.

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    1. Whaat ??? Ha..ha..ha… I dont have any idea what u r talking about…. because i dont do such things….. But it is so funny to see that u r so much obsessed about me that you always thinks about me whenever some strange things happens to you…… Ha..ha..ha…Ha..ha..ha…

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  22. Dear Readers. ( including Sachin ) lagta hai yeh khuch khabri mujhe hi deni padegi. Our boss aur is blog ke malik Sri Dhruv has got engaged recently. ( I got this info on facebook he shows as my friend there ) I hereby take this opportunity of congratulating him and best wishes to the couple. God bless them with prosperity and happiness.

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    1. If it is so, then CONGRATULATIONS DHRUV for the Engagement & your future life….!!

      On the lighter side, uptil now, We (me & Niraj) have given a lot of headaches to you in this blog, but now you will have additional headaches to take care of in you Personal life….. Ha..ha..ha…. Just kidding…… CONGRATULATIONS once again…. And all the best…..!!

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  23. Infact I am glad Sachin mentioned Sri Chiraans name. My first post on Karna was on chiraans blog and chiraan taught me a valuable lesson. You can use your opponents words philosophy against him in a debate. I did that to defeat Sachin. Philisophy don’t belive in who said to whoms believe actual event. Whole world has to be subjucated during rajsuya yagya narad muni tells yudhi. Actual event rajsuya conquest door to door salesman and no karna of anga status defeated by bhima of nanga bhikhar status.
    Battle day 14 bhima defeats Karn many times. Actual event chariot change by karna battle continuing. Sachin philosophy stanind like ghughu prasad in battle is not defeat. Arjunas victories at kurukshetra battle 14 or any battle before final battle ie 17 chariot breaking – not defeat and karna standing like ghughu prasad. Same at draupadi swamayvara. Sachin supported by laws of nature challanging shalya parva section 62 I am supported by limitations of human facluties challanged virata yudha
    Still awaiting proof of sachin claim that Arjuna killed Karn in fair fight.

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    1. Sour loser…. Still crying….. Who cares… You already lost Mr Newzealand Player…. Now dont ask the Australia team(i.e. me) to play another world cup final…. Because neither Australia nor Me cares what you are crying for now…..

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  24. Sachin Since you have failed to nullify the fact that bhimas fake victories over Karna were actually chariot changing and also failed to proove your claim Arjuna killed Karna in fair fight I hereby congratulate you on your imagination victory. I wont call you sour loser. Winner of mungerialal award ke hakdaar hain aap.

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    1. Ha..ha..ha… It is so funny to see a Great blogger-Niraj(who alone took on Chirann & his followers) has RUN OUT of MB passages to prove his points & is left with no other option then to cry like a sour loser….. Poor Niraj…..!!

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  25. @ Niraj,

    Well well well… the great Niraj has come out of his CONCEALMENT…. Ha..ha..ha…

    And regarding my sixth statement- “6. And in 17th day final battle, Arjun killed Karna in a fair one-on-one battle”….. I think you have not read the first statment of that post of mine which said-“at the end of all the discussions, we have all agreed to following facts of MB:” ….. Which means, since you all have failed to prove your claim of “Arjun killed Karna unfairly” hence the point remains that Arjun killed Karna FAIRLY….. So the onus was on you to prove your claim, but you already failed to do so, hence it is not my job to prove the opposite…..

    Your statement-“all your other points have already been nullified by me ie bhimas victories over karna were mostly chariot breaking and karna coming on another chariot in accordance with your preaching see what the character has actually done.”

    My ans- Sorry Niraj, you have already lost this debate….. So now crying like a sour loser wont help but it will only further show your pity status…..

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  26. Sachin your sixth statement
    6. And in 17th day final battle, Arjun killed Karna in a fair one-on-one battle
    my ans prove this from KMG vyasa don’t talk in air. all your other points have already been nullified by me ie bhimas victories over karna were mostly chariot breaking and karna coming on another chariot in accordance with your preaching see what the character has actually done.

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  27. Now, let’s see the real character of Karna on the basis of Ved Vyas MB:

    1. Karna’s “Daanveerta”

    A lot has been said about Karna’s “Daanveerta” in MB, but nobody noticed that Karna himself received the “Daan” of Angadesh from Duryodhana…..A real Daanveer would never have accepted such ‘Bheekh'(Beggery).

    Karna gave his “Kavach-Kundal” to Indra as ‘Daan’….but nobody noticed that he himself then asked for the ‘Daan’ of ‘Shakti-astra’ from Indra…..
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    2. Karna was a liar:
    Karna received all the war education from Parshuram, by telling a lie that he was a Brahmin….but actually he was a ‘Suta'(By Karna’s own knowledge at that time)….hence he cheated his own guru Parshuram….It proves Karna was a cheater….
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    3. Karna was a Wretch :
    Karna was equally involved in planning the ‘Laksha-gruh'(House of Lac) Killing of Pandavas….. Now what kind of greatness is there in burning your opponents by such devil means…..
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    4. Karna was an “Ehsaan-faramosh” friend :
    After being defeated by Gandharvas, Karna ran away to save his own life, leaving Duryodhan alone to die…..Now is it called the real friendship ?????

    Karna refused to participate in MB war under Bhishma’s commandership, due to his ego problems…. This shows that Karna was more concerned about his ego than for Duryo’s friedship & loyalty…..

    Karna’s only aim was to prove himself as the Greatest Archer & better than Arjun…… & Karna had nothing to do with the Duryodhan’s cause & so he ran away on many occasions leaving Durodhan helpless, to save his own life….e.g. In Viraat yudh, Gandharva war etc.

    Also, if Karna cared about Duryodhana’s victory then he would not have promised Kunti that he would spare the life of 4 Pandavas(except Arjun)….because without killing all Pandavas.. victory would never been achieved by Duryodhana……

    Now, some people might say that Karna was a caring elder brother, that is why he promised Kunti….then why didnt he cared about Arjun’s life…??

    Karna could have returned his Angadesh to Duryodhan & refused to fight to save all 5 Pandavas…..but he didnt do it because he didnt want to miss the chance of proving himself better than Arjun…..

    This proves Karna was neither a caring elder brother…..
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    5. Karna never respected his elders:
    Karna never gave due respect to great peoples like Bhishma, Drona, Kripacharya etc…..
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    6. Karna was a “Apne Muh miya Mitthoo” (Self boastfull)
    Karna always used to boast about himself & his Greatness….But he always used to runaway in crunch situations……..That is why Karna has been scolded many times by Bhishma, Krip, Ashwatthama etc….
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    7. Karna insulted a helpless women-Draupadi at the Dyuta…….. What kind of a gentleman the Great Karna was??
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    8. Karna killed Abhimanyu in a joint attack with 7 other Maharathis….
    Now, a great warrior who has confidence in his own ability, would never have done such thing….. instead he should have condemed such thing…..e.g. Arjun was never in favour of Yudhishthira telling the lie regarding Ashwatthama’s Death……& When Dristdyumna killed Drona…. Arjun was the first one to condemn it…..
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    9. Karna’s Bravery:
    Karna ran away a number of times from many fights after been defeated, to save his life…..
    It is a shame for a warrior to fly away to save his life……A Great warrior would have accepted his death instead of running away…..
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    Now, looking at all the above examples, it is clear that Karna was neither a Great warrior nor a Good human being……

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  28. So Guys, at the end of all the discussions, we have all agreed to following facts of MB:

    1. Gurudakshina war: Karna RAN AWAY doom dabaa ke from Drupad……!!

    2. Draupadi Swayamwar war: Karna backed off from a fight with Arjun, hence defeated…..

    3. Gandharva war: Karna RAN AWAY doom dabaa ke, leaving Duryo in Danger…… what a coward & cheat friend….!!

    4. Viraat war: Karna RAN AWAY doom dabaa ke 3 times…… And on the 4th time, Karna was made naked by Arjun(after Uttar striped off Karna’s clothes)……. And it was Arjun’s Mercy that Karna lived to see another day…. what a pity….!!

    5. In MB war: Karna got defeated & RAN AWAY doom dabaa ke some 4 to 5 times from Bhima, 2 times from Arjun, 1 time from Abhimanyu, 1 time from Satyaki, 1 time from Ghatotkach…… what a poor warrior….!! Karna’s life was Spared by Bhima, Satyaki etc because of Arjun’s vow…..

    6. And in 17th day final battle, Arjun killed Karna in a fair one-on-one battle…..
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    So it is clear that Karna was beaten by even tom/dick/harrys like Gandharvas/Drupad etc, hence this proves that Karna was just an Ordinary warrior & nowhere close to Arjun in warrior status…..

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      1. Ha..ha..ha.. Mr Kshitij… I dare you to prove me wrong, because whatever i said is the fact of Vyas MB….. I stand on my claim…. And about your “rage”, WHO CARES… Ha..ha..ha..

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      1. Mr Axel Blaize… You are a Kindergarten kid as far as knowledge about Mahabharat is concerned…. If u think that a Guy(Karna) who got defeated by even tom/dick/harrys of MB, is the Greatest warrior of all time, then it proves that you are a MORON of first order….. If u have the guts, then prove your claim, otherwise the whole world will see who the real COWARD is…. Got the point Mr Dhakkan….

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  29. It seems, that the Karna lovers have given up on defending the failures of their beloved Karna…… Ha..ha..ha…. So it means that they have accepted the ORDINARY STATUS of Karna & all of his failures….. Good….

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  30. On 14th day, after Karna got thrashed by Bhima 2 times & by Arjun 1 time, Karna runs away towards Duryodhan & starts crying about his thrashing:

    “Thus addressed by thy son, O sire, the son of Radha replied unto Duryodhana, that foremost one among the Kurus, in these words, ‘DEEPLY HATH MY BODY BEEN PIERCED IN BATTLE BY THE BRAVE BOW- MAN
    BHIMASENA, CAPABLE OF STRIKING VIGOROUSLY WITH REPEATED SHOWERS OF ARROWS. O giver of honours, that I am yet present in battle is be- cause that one like me should be present here. SCORCHED WITH THE POWER- FUL SHAFTS OF BHIMASENA, EVERY LIMB OF MINE IS SUFFERING FROM TORTURING PAIN. I shall, however, for all that, fight to the best of my powers. My life itself is for thee. I shall strive my best so that this foremost one of the sons of Pandu may not succeed in slaying the ruler of the Sindhus. AS LONG AS I SHALL FIGHT, SHOOTING MY WHETTED SHIFTS, THE HEROIC DHANAN- JAYA, CAPABLE OF DRAWING THE BOW WITH EVEN HIS LEFT HAND, WILL NOT SUCCEED IN GETTING AT THE RULER OF THE SINDHUS. All that a person, bearing love and affection to thee and always solicitous of thy good, may do, shall be done by me, O thou of Kuru’s race ! As regards v ictory, that depends on destiny. I shall in battle today exert myself to my utmost for the sake of the ruler of the Sindhus, and for achieving thy good. O king, victory, however, is dependent on destiny. Relying on my manli- ness, I shall fight with Arjuna today for thy sake, O tiger among men ! Victory, however, is dependent on destiny. O chief of the Kurus, let all the troops BEHOLD TODAY THE FIERCE BATTLE, MAKING THE VERY HAIR STAND ON END, THAT TAKES PLACE BETWEEN MYSELF AND ARJUNA.'”
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    Just look, how Pathetic Karna’s condition was….. But still Karna was boasting to fight with Arjun & SAVE Jaydrath….. but in the end, Karna simply RAN AWAY from Arjun AGAIN & left Jaydrath to die at the hands of Arjun…..!! What a FEKOO Karna was….!!

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  31. Guys,

    Lets see, who was the Most “Khunnasbaaz”(Revengeful) character of MB ??

    Q: Most “Khunnasbaaz”(Revengeful) character of MB ??

    My Top 6 list is:

    1. Drona
    2. Karna
    3. Ashwatthama
    4. Bhima
    5. Arjun
    6. Jarasandh
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    Explainations:

    1. Drona :
    – Drona was the MOST Khunnasbaaz (Revengeful) character of MB….
    – He had Khunnas from Drupad for almost 30 years….
    Drupad ONLY rejected Drona’s INVALID demand to give him HALF the Kingdom… but Drona took it as a BIG INSULT & had so much Khunnas in his heart that he agreed to become SERVENT of Hastinapur in order to get their Backup & to train Kuru princes so that they can take the REVENGE on his behalf…..

    Now, points to note are :

    – Drupad DID NOT do any physical harm to Drupad…..
    – Drona did not forget about his REVENGE for almost 30 years…..
    – Drona being just a NON-CAPABLE ordinary person, still DARED to take revenge from a KING (Drupad)…..!!
    – Brahmin war teachers like Drona neve accepted Kshatriyas as their Student before, but for the SAKE OF HIS REVENGE, Drona accepted the Kuru princes as his students…..
    – Drona put the life of Kuru Princes on the line, to take his revenge….!! What if any of the kuru Prince had died in Gurudakshina war..??..!!
    – Now, to make the character of drona worse, Drona didnt even put his own life at risk to take his REVENGE from Drupad…..!!

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    2. Karna :
    – The 2nd MOST Khunnasbaaz (Revengeful) character of MB….
    – He had Khunnas from Arjun for almost 50 years…..

    Points to note here are :
    – Arjun NEVER did any harm to Karna…. But just because Arjun was EXTRAORDINARILY talented & best in archery, so Karna stared having jeolousy & Khunnas for Arjun…..
    – Karna asked for Brahmastra from Drona, Only to fight/kill Arjun to prove himself better than Arjun ….
    – Karna always wanted to kill Arjun ONLY to prove himself better than Arjun…..
    – Even after Karna knew that Pandavas were his brothers, still he wanted to KILL ARJUN ONLY to prove himself better than Arjun…. What a KHUNNAS….!! (P.S.: Karna had whatsoever no care for Duryo’s cause, which is proved in this blog)

    – Karna also had Khunnas with Bhishma/Drona/Kripa…. Karna was so much Khunnas-baaz that he REFUSED to fight the MB war under Bhishma, not giving a damn about Duryo’s cause….!!

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    3. Ashwatthama:
    – He had Khunnas with Panchals, because Dristdyumna killed Drona…..
    – Now, if Ashwatthma had killed Dristdyumna DURING MB war, then this would have been understandable, but Ashwatthma kept his Khunnas alive even after the MB war was over & cowardly attacked Pandavas’ camp at night to kill Panchals & sons of Draupadi…..
    – Ashwatthama had the Khunnas but NEVER had the guts to challenge/kill Panchals in an open fight…..

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    4. Bhima:
    – He had Khunnas with 100 kuru brothers & killed them all….
    – Although Bhima’s Khunnas had a VALID reason & that was Draupadi’s insult at Dyuta….. but still it takes a lot of Khunnas to kill your family members…..

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    5. Arjun:
    – He had Khunnas with Jaydrath because of Arjun’s fatherly love for Abhimanyu…..
    – Arjun’s Khunnas gets one extra point because Arjun took a Super challenging Pledge to kill Jaydrath next day before sunset & that too when Jaydrath had the protection of WHOLE kuru army…..!! And to make matter worse, Arjun also pledge to take “Agni-Samadhi” if he fails in his Pledge….. Although, i would say that this was more of an ANGER thing for Arjun then the Khunnas…..
    – Arjun further carried on this Khunnas by killing Vrishsena in front of Karna….

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    6. Jarasandh:
    – Jarasandh had Khunnas with Krishna because Krishna killed Kansa-the son-in-law of Jarasandh….
    – And for this Khunnas, Jarasandh captured Krishna’s Mathura & made Krishna run away from his own kingdom…..

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  32. @ Dhakkan Sanjay,

    Your statement-“Bhishma pledged. Bhishma acknowledged his pledge. ACTUAL event of bhishma taking that pledge is not there. So you find contradiction here?”

    My ans- So you accepted that BHishma did not take this pledge(to help Duryo) at the time of his “Original Bhishma Pratigya” but he took it later…. Good ….. Case solved…. So the onus in on you to show the timing of this 2nd pledge….

    Further, this proves that Bhishma was not at all obligated to side with Kurus from the begining, but he started favouring Duryodhan LATER…. And as i have stated previously, Bhishma became Pro-Duryo after the Rajsuya Yagya of Pandavas… (may be Bhishma was felt insulted because Yudi became Samraat)…..

    Further, when Duryo stared forming the coalition of Kings by requesting other kings to join his side for MB war, then obiviously every king gives a Promise or takes a pledge that he would help Duryodhan in MB war…. Similarly Bhishma may have given this (2nd) pledge to Duryo to side with him in MB war, JUST BEFORE THE MB WAR…..

    So whatever may be the timing of this 2nd pledge, still it only proves that Bhishma took the side of Duryo ON HIS OWN WISH…..

    Your statement-“I failed to prove “Duryo’s acceptence to Bhishma’s condition” hence my point is punctured still Duryo fought without Karna till Bhishma was fighting proves my point.”

    My ans- Ha..ha…ha.. Duryo fought without Karna till Bhishma was fighting proves that it was Karna’s own decision to not to participate in war UNDER BHISHMA, because “Duryo’s acceptence to Bhishma’s condition” is not there….. Got it Mr Kindergarten Moron…

    Your statement-“You prove that Duryo DID NOT ACCEPT Bhishma’s condition till then you are a punctured dhol.”

    My ans- Ha..ha…ha.. I dont need to, because you accepted that-“I failed to prove “Duryo’s acceptence to Bhishma’s condition hence my point is punctured”……. Got it Mr Kindergarten Dhakkan…

    Your statement-“Hence point remains, that Karna did not participate in MB war ONLY because of Bhishma’s CONDITION”

    My ans- Punctured above….

    Your statement-“Abey Khaali bartan! You are in love with Karna’s EGO so that love should stay under Drona as well. Rather it should be even more intense since Drona did not give him brahmastra. Since it never happened your love for Karna’s EGO goes phussssss and proved adolescence infatuation of a STUPID teenager who has not grown fully…….!”

    My ans- Punctured Personal opinion of a Kindergarten Dhakkan……

    Your statement-“You should ask yourself and not Karna “Who would have got credit for victory if Karna had fought under Drona….??”

    My ans- NON-CONTEXTUAL question of an ILLITERATE Dhakkan…..

    Your statement-” Q.1: Why was it neccesary for Pandavas to kill Jarasandh for Rajsuya Yagya ?Ans: Because Krishna advised them to do so otherwise they could NEVER perform Rajsuya.”

    My ans- Well well well….. So you accepted that it was necessary for Pandavas to subjugate ALL KINGS of India(including Jarasandh & Karna) for Rajsuya Yagya….. Thanks…. I won ….

    Your statement-“What is the SIGNIFICANCE of Rajsuya Yagya ?? Why did Pandavas performed the Rajsuya Yagya ?Ans: To collect chandaaa (bheekh) for the yaga which happened over many days and hosted large population of Brahmins, rishis, kings etc. Pandavas were poor beggars who did not have that much money to host such large scale festivity…”

    My ans- Ha..ha…ha.. Ha..ha…ha.. Ha..ha…ha.. Ha..ha…ha.. Ha..ha…ha.. Ha..ha…ha.. Ha..ha…ha.. Ha..ha…ha.. Now, we are back with Kindergarten jokes of Kindergarten Dhakkan….. Begger becoming Samraat of India…?? Ha..ha…ha.. Ha..ha…ha.. Ha..ha…ha.. Ha..ha…ha.. Ha..ha…ha.. Ha..ha…ha..

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  33. Sachin – Arey Dhakkan….. The point of ACTUAL event comes when there is contradiction in the “ACTUAL event” & “Statement of some character of MB”….. In case of “Krishna leaving Mathura and shifting to Dwarka”, there is no such CONTRADICTION… so keep you Idiocity upto you only….

    Sanjay – Bhishma pledged. Bhishma acknowledged his pledge. ACTUAL event of bhishma taking that pledge is not there. So you find contradiction here?
    Krishna left Mathura. Krishna acknowledged that. ACTUAL event of Krishna leaving Mathura is not there. BUT you don’t find contradiction here?

    Thanks for proving you are both – dhakkan as well as khaali bartan…!!
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    Sachin – And since you failed to show the actual event of Bhishma taking pledge to support Duryo in MB war, hence your claim is punctured…..

    Sanjay – Already showed you mirror above

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    Sachin – Without Duryo’s acceptence, Bhishma’s condition is irrelevant… and since you failed to prove “Duryo’s acceptence to Bhishma’s condition”, hence you point is punctured…… Got it Mr Moron….

    Sanjay – I failed to prove “Duryo’s acceptence to Bhishma’s condition” hence my point is punctured still Duryo fought without Karna till Bhishma was fighting proves my point. Now Mr Moron! You prove that Duryo DID NOT ACCEPT Bhishma’s condition till then you are a punctured dhol.

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    Sachin – Hence point remains, that Karna did not participate in MB war ONLY because of his EGO…..

    Sanjay – Hence point remains, that Karna did not participate in MB war ONLY because of Bhishma’s CONDITION…..

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    Sachin – Abey Chamann… Karna fought under Drona, so does it give an EXCUSE to Karna for not participating under Bhishma ??? MB clearly mentions the reason of EGO of Karna(of not giving credit of his success to Bhishma) as the actual reason of Karna not participating under Bhishma…

    Sachin – Abey Khaali bartan! You are in love with Karna’s EGO so that love should stay under Drona as well. Rather it should be even more intense since Drona did not give him brahmastra. Since it never happened your love for Karna’s EGO goes phussssss and proved adolescence infatuation of a STUPID teenager who has not grown fully…….!

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    Sachin – And instead of asking me Stupid questions, you should ask your favourite Karna that “Why did he back-stab his best friend-Duryo on multiple occasions ??” & “Who would have got credit for victory if Karna had fought under Bhishma….?? Got the point you ILLITERATE Kindergarten Moron…..

    Sanjay – Obviously if you certify yourself STUPID by giving STUPID theories I will put STUPID questions only and see you are CHICKENING OUT of that even. You should ask yourself and not Karna “Who would have got credit for victory if Karna had fought under Drona….?? Got the point you ILLITERATE Moron…..

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    Sachin – And speaking of Chickening out, you cowardly CHICKENED OUT of my previous questions(as usual):

    Sanjay – See you are again CHICKENING OUT by putting questions instead of answering my SIMPLE question.
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    Your Q.1: Why was it neccesary for Pandavas to kill Jarasandh for Rajsuya Yagya ?
    Ans: Because Krishna advised them to do so otherwise they could NEVER perform Rajsuya. And they being mindless tattoos of Krishna and helpless calves obliged….
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    Q.2: What is the SIGNIFICANCE of Rajsuya Yagya ?? Why did Pandavas performed the Rajsuya Yagya ?

    Ans: To collect chandaaa (bheekh) for the yaga which happened over many days and hosted large population of Brahmins, rishis, kings etc. Pandavas were poor beggars who did not have that much money to host such large scale festivity….Khush…????
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    Sachin – So Mr ILLITERATE Chicken, first answer my questions, before doing your Kooook-dooo-koooon here….

    Sanjay – So Mr ILLITERATE Chicken, now answer MY question- Who would have got credit for victory if Karna would have fought under Drona’s leadership…..??? I can see ANOTHER CHICKENING OUT…..Poor ILLITERATE MORON!

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