Both are Lord Vishnu’s avtaar. But both have very different life of earth and way they tackle problems is also very different. Whom you admire more?
Please share your views.
Lord Rama VS Lord Krishna
Dedicated to Karna and Humanity
Dedicated to Karna and Humanity
Both are Lord Vishnu’s avtaar. But both have very different life of earth and way they tackle problems is also very different. Whom you admire more?
Please share your views.
Karna The Great 
The absolute truth is formless and omnipresent The so called god like ram Krishna hari narayan Vishnu shiv are nothing or false. These guys are given an extremely wide area of universe or universes to govern by the almighty or god or parmatma. These personalities are very higher almostly infinite than us in qualities life glory and expansions but these are not god. God is only one.For example there are infinite no of suns in sky or a single universe . Now consider a single sun which is 109 time bigger in area and billions of time heavier than earth has a life of 4-5 billion years. That is the hugeness of sun and what about the other so called gods. In geeta it is told by Krishna that only a single sun illuminates the whole universe which is completely false because there are billions of sun and they are illuminating the universe. Another instanse is there when arjun sad that he is seeing 12 aadityas I.e suns in universal form of Krishna which is again false because there are billions of suns.
So these so called gods like ram Krishna shiv etc are only extremely higher beings than us but not the god. God is one and formless + infinite. These beings are also searching the god. We can call these beings as aliens of higher planets or the beings of extraterrestrial region. What do you think?????
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Vedh khud sakshi hai Ram naam ke prabhao ke liye …Ek Ram naam lene se 7 dishao se shubh hone lagta hai . Ram bhagwan ka prithvi pe aane ke anek vajah hai but sabse bade vajah hai Insaano ka kalyaan .Laxman kaun the khud vishnu the . Ram ka mukh ek taraf se vishnu ki tarah aur dusri taraf se maha vishnu ki tarah lagta hai . Ram ka paratpar ya param bramha bhi kehte hai aur yeh ved mei bhi likha hai . Ram ki shakti bhakti koi kalyug mei koi nhi jaan sakta sirf wahi jaan sakta hai jispe Ram ki kripa ho jaye .Ram prithvi pe insaano ke beech aye insaan bankar rahe dharma ka pallan kiya . Zindagi mei hamesha 2 raste hote ek jo asaan hota hai i teresting hota hai acha lgta hai ( krishna ) aur ek jo sahi hota hai mushkil hota (Ram) . Ram naam se moksh milta hai . Agar aplog shiv bhakt ho to mai apko bta dta ho shiv ka mool mantra hai Ram naam shiv bhakti chahye to bhi Ram naam se mil sakti hai . Jay SiyaRam
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All are just wasting the time. Jo ram h wahi krishna h aur wahi vishnu. Sb ek hi parmatma ke alag alag roop h. jay shri ram jay shri krishna jay shri Hari,
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I would like to say something here with due respect to all the bloggers.Are you all really devotees of GOD? LORD RAMA and LORD KRISHNA are the incarnations of THE SUPREME GOD HEAD VISHNU.LORD RAMA and LORD KRISHNA came here in this world to destroy the evils and establist dharma in different eras and in different situations.How can we compare the same person in different views?I like the example of an actor told by niraj.
Some people here say that LORD VISHNU himself chants the name of RAMA.Does anyone chant his own name?
No comparison between the two avatars of Vishnu can be done,that would be a sin.
No one of the two avatars did any misdeed in their time,what they did was the reqirements of time.
HARE RAMA HARE KRISHNA
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We are comparing characters of both.
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Sir, lord rama and lord krishna both are incarnation of lord vishnu agreed but here the comparison is between the ideals and characters played both thse great personalities. I have aldready explained in detail about great qualities of lord Rama against lord Krishna and most of the people has opinion that rama definitely had a greater character than lord krishna in all respect. Even today overall chanting of hey Rama is much more than jai shri krishna. Actually in my opinion Rama’s ideals are so very difficult to follow in Kalyug. But impact of Rama is emense even in Kalyug. The popularity of Ramlila, Dussehra and Diwali is much greater than and festival/puja celebrated in krishna’s honour. Even lord shiva had immense respect for lord Rama. Lord Rama never asked any help from any god. He rather got friends in monkeys or bears. Rama got immense respect from all creatures in his times but lord krishna even though some people say that he was complete incarnation of lord vishnu but his glory was limited upto pandavas.
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Sir he also sent his wife to jungle just on false claim of a wicked dhobi….even though sita mata passed through agnee pariksha to prove she was pure…..Lord krishna gave GEETA gyan…..but on the other hand lord rama asked laxman to take gyan from ravan…..
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Lord rama was born in satyug so the problems and situations faced by him was far very different from dwaparyug in which lord Krishna was born OK and the reason y lord Krishna was born is to start and establish kalyug and he is the person who has given us and to all human beings an idea of how we should live and protect yourself in kalyug and how smartly we should talk dress up walk and be punctual hardworking and at the same time diplomatic and work with a smart mind so to survive and win over the others in this kalyug and that was the main motto of Lord Krishna which he had successfully given and taught to the human beings so make people aware of the situations and problems which they will be facing at each and every moment of their life in kalyug so both have done great things in their respective time ages according to the requirement and need which was a must full things for the betterment of human beings
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Mr. prakash actually i didn’t mean vishnu chants the name of rama. God shiva himself said that , “Chanting the name of god rama only once is greater than chanting the name of vishnu 1000 times and also chanting the name of any god three times is greater than chanting the name of god rama once….”…………jai shriram…
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Mr. Gopal actually i didn’t mean vishnu chants the name of rama. God shiva himself said that , “Chanting the name of god rama only once is greater than chanting the name of vishnu 1000 times and also chanting the name of any god three times is greater than chanting the name of god rama once….”…………jai shriram…
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Though I agree with you on some points I also differ with you on other. You please go through the epics and some Dharm Granths. There you will be able to know the meaning of “Avtar”. This word is used for Lord almighty only not for anyone other. But it is now used commonly for some Product and by some Producer for their movie name. It is Sanskrit word means Av+tar mans coming down from ups and it is Lord almighty comes here in different forms so Lord Sri Ram or Lord Sri Krishna are none other than Lord himself. Neither lord Sri Ram had taken birth as common person nor Lord Sri Krishna. Both are important figure in our life and these two forms of Lord inspire us everywhere. As per Dharm Granths, It is Lord Sri Ram had taken form of Lord Sri Krishna in Dupar yuga for fulfilling his some tasks of Treta Yuga, like marrying some gopis and other some important tasks. Only these two forms appears in every Treta and Dupar and both are swyam Bhagwan. They are above birth and death but he comes like a simple person. That’s why, we have been celebrating his Ramnavami and Krishnaashtmi every year. hare Rama hare Krishna is the mhamantra of this Kalyug. jay Sri Ram, Radhye Shyam.. Hare Rama hare krishna.
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dhanya hai yaha pe kuch log….. it’s the hight of “STUPIDITY” by some of the people here. thinking as lord shri ram ji or lord shri krishna ji or lord shri shiv ji as different is nothing but foolishness. in bhagwad gita lord shri krishna himself told that “shastradharion me mai “RAM” hu….. rudro me “SHIV” …….adityo me VISHNU” still ppl here think that they are different. lord ram also promised vali after mortally injuring him that if still u think that i killed u by cheating then in “MY” next birth u will kill me by cheating that what happened when the hunter named jara shot his arrow at lord shri krishna ji thinking him as a deer.
By saying one is greater than other u are trying to disrepect the one and only supreme lord as u know bhagwan “EK” hai unke roop “anek” hai.
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luv u ra
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It sounds like all of you are comparing superheros out of some comic book! How stupid and ignorant! Its like comparing Jesus and Santa Claus, children’s arguments about fairy tales. Grow up!
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lord rama was criticized by so many people for few reasons such as killing vali by hiding near tree..answer for this you will find in valmiki ramayana itself.. lord rama’s arrow strucked in heart of vali. if lord rama kills by hiding, the arrow of lord ram couldn’t struck in heart of vali.. it would have stucked in back side..another dharma here is lord rama is human, vali is animal.. there is dharma in veda such that human can hunt animals by hiding..so lord rama didn’t exceed dharma..
another allegation is, lord rama asked sita enter into fire..if you would have read valmiki ramayan, lord rama asked sita to go any where as she wishes.The decision of entering into fire has taken by sita itself. this is because further no one should comment on chastity of sita. He himself tested sita for people sake even though he cried internally for this test. This fact revealed later by dasharatha who comes from heaven..
Please read valmiki ramayan completely and dare to comment
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guys, actually most of you are mistaken. lord rama is the “ideal” person. but lord krishna is the “perfect” person. there is a lot of difference. many people also consider krishna to be the supreme god. it is he who has given the bhagavad gita, the ultimate knowledge of life and righteousness, it is also therefore said- “krishnam vande jagadgurum”- meaning “i bow to lord krishna who is the guru of the universe itself.” krishna’s life may appear as if he is naughty and mischeiveous, but his lif is his message. i like krishna very much and feel that he is the perfect being. someone read the series of books “krishnavatara” writen by k.m.munshi. you will understand.
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Right, but Lord Shri Ram is also jagad Guru and perfect person. In fact, Lord Shri Ram and Lord Shri Krishna are two forms of Lord almighty/ they both are same and Lord Shri Ram is also called as Purn brhaam Paratpar par Braham jagad guru. :Lord Shri Brahma also chanted rythem and stuti after He killed Rawana. Ved himself comes before lord Shri Ram in god form and he had sung stuti. Lord Shri Ram used only the performance which was needed but he was himself lord and there is nothing bit of lack in his leela. He is also perfect and Maryada Purshottam. Purshottam means the perfect person and no one is above him, as per shri mad bhgvadam. Even, Bhgadam also cleared that Lord Shri Ram is perfect purn Braham and he is called by Braham, Partmama, and Bhgawan. Lord Shri Ram had even assured Chanderkanta then in Treta yug that he would appeared as Lord Sri Krishna in Dupwar and you would be Satybhama.. So, you must not forget that there are two forms of Lord unique, which influenced our life very much. ||Jay Siya Ram||
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Today is Janmashthami. May Lord Krishnas blessings be on all of us.
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see niraj ram is better then krishna actually we should not compare but here is the situvation of to compare ram is best because no evil destroyed ram but there is a evilcalled jarasandhan who defeated krishna several times and there is no bower like ram in this world
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Hey guys. You are mistaken, Shree Rama chandra prabhu and Shree Krishna paramathma are the avatar of Vishnu Bhagavan. There is no need of discussion or argument, It is happening because of our immature knowledge.
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Jai Shree Ram Jai shree Ram..!!Roma pati rama oma pati sombo…..i will give the the best explanation lord shiva worsship lord ram as his god and him as lord ram’s devotee and krishna worships shiv which means that shiv is more greater than krishna and shiva worships lord ram so that means that Raghupati Ram is the Godhead Of all the lords..!!!! Jai shree Ram.
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lord krishna is nothing but vishnu avatar to be clear there are many avatars of krushna i.e, lord rama,narayana,narasimha,jaganatha,tirupati balaji(called govida),pandarinatha(vitala),so what i want to tell u is krishna is master of all gods he dont hav any guru he is supreme personality of god head and remaining all r demi gods lord shiva also demigod amd for him power given by krishna himself and all the demigods are emanatimg 4m him so if u workship lord krishna all gods gets satisfied.lord krishna have no birth nor death its just an avatars of lord krishna to solve problems on the earth u will get to know when u workship lord krishna.harekrishna
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@PRAVEEN SHINDE:Pravin shinde i think you should read Ramayana.Krishna is just an avtaar of lord Vishnu.It was Lord Vishnu who took 9 avtaars to save earth……………and 10th avtaar hasn’t happened yet but will come soon as kalki..You said krishna has no birth and death…………..totally wrong.krishna has birth and his death was terrible…………….Lord Shrirama is the supreme lord because he was the first purnavatar(7th incarnation) of lord vishnu…………and krishna is 2nd purnavtar(8th incarnation)………………Even shrirama said vali that “I will come in next birth as krishna and you have all rights to kill me”……………It means that shrirama knew the next avtaar.Also shrirama promised vaishnavi devi “I will come as kalki avtaar and marry you because in current birth i can’t fullfill your wish to marry me because sita is my only wife”………………………It means that shrirama knew all of his previous avtaars and also his forthcoming avataars…………….Also before taking jal samadhi, kaal which was the son of vishnu asked lord Rama respectfully “My Lord Rama If you have any work to finish on earth you could stay here otherwise we will have the discussion of your next avataar and then we will go to vaikuntha”…………then rama took jal samadhi……….it means mrityu also came to rama respectfully……………………………………Now turn to krishna…….krishna had faced terrible death…………….now tell me if krishna was supreme lord then how he got mrityu like normal human……….i know gandhari gave him a curse…….For your kind information, lord shiva gave sudarshan to vishnu and parshuram gave sudarshan to krishna…………..krishna did all the things that normal man does………..but lord rama did all the things that only ideal personality can do……………..and supreme gods have ideal personality……..which only god rama has………….according to you krishna teached geeta so he is the supreme…………but geeta was first teched to manu who was the son of surya then ishvaku teached geeta…..and so on , so by default lord rama knew geeta as he was the successor of ishvaku but there was no need to teach geeta to any character of ramayana…….so rama didn’t do that………………………krishna showed his viraat rup at the time of battle of mahabharata………………but lord rama showed his viraat rup at the time of birth to dashrath and kausalya……and said “I am the supreme lord vishnu and in your previous birth you both prayed me and demanded to come as your child but at that time i wasn’t fullfilled your wish but now i am fullfilling your wish by coming as your child as rama”………….in that viraat rup dashratha and kausalya saw…………….there are 100000s of lord shiva 100000s of lord brahma……1000000s of universe 100000s of surya chandra……..and all the living and non-living things…………………….also lord rama showed this rup to hanumana ravana,etc…………………………..Important thing is that, ramayana was written in tretayuga by valmiki almost 150 years before the birth of lord rama and after that it happened so lord rama knew all the things those are happened and those are going to happen so rama let that happened as he wanted……………………………..Lord shiva said taking the name of lord rama once is more than taking the name of vishnu 1000 times or taking the name of any god 1000 time……………….also it is mentioned in vishnu purana, ramayana…………..all the gods except lord rama chant the name of lord rama…………even lord vishnu who took birth as lord rama chant the name of lord rama…………..hanumana was the 11th avtaar of shiva…………….shiva took birth as hanumana to pray his god rama……………………….when shiva drank vish at the time of samudra manthan…….he felt disturbed. He had naga on his neck, ganga in his jata and chandra on his head……….but he didn’t recoverd from effect of vish ,finally he chant the name of Lord rama and he felt good………from that time lord shiva is the devotee of lord rama in mahabharata when arjuna get feared of the result of war before the war krishna teached him geeta and said “if ou are feared then there is only one name that was god Rama’s name which will save you and which will definitely give the win for you so chant the lord rama and pray him”……………………………so please read the ramayana………………Jai shriram.
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Fine sharing of knowledge by Pravin. Someone very rightly mentioned that Lord Rama valued life of every creature not only human being preciously.Lord Rama offerred Vali that if he wants to be alive he can do so. But Vali preferred to die in the hands of lord Rama similarly Lord rama offerred Ravana also the same thing. Lord Rama was a born prince but he always lived like a poor man.Kewat,Nishadraj,Shabri, Zatayu any many others were mean by birth but everyone got the credit due to lord Rama. So Rama is supreme in all gods. Whetehr he was solah kala or not is beside the point. What myth some idiots say that Krishna had sampurn kalas and not Lord Rama is absolute truth. There are many references in dwpar yog when Krishna has also accaepted Lord rama’ supremacy.
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I agree with you Praveen. The ramayana mentioned the power of lord LordRama on many occasions which include Lord Rama’s supremacy over ord Parshurama who himself was an incarnation of Lord Vishnu. Then there is a reference when lord Shiva himself says that he is the devotee of Lord Rama. Even when the ocean does not appear on request of Lord Rama and when Lord rama finally decideds to observe the occean by a Brahmashtra, then finally Lord Occean also scares and appearsin the service of Lord Rama. When Lord rama cuts seven trees with one arrow to assure Sugreegv that he can kill Vali. Lord Krishna never shown his bravity he always used his divine power to kill any one. Lord rama valued human life than Lord Krishna. that’s why he gave repeated opportunity to Ravana to send back Sita. Even Meghnath and Ravana at the time of their death realised that Lord Rama is actually a god. The personal qualities ofLord Rama were matchless. Lord Krishna was as great warrior as Lord Rama. Lord Hanuman who is considered the most powerful god among Hindi dieties was a selfless devotee of Lord Rama.
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few more additions. 1. everyone knows lord H anuman’s power and strength. Lord Hanumana worshipped only lord Rama and Lord shiva. even when Hanumana faced lord Krishna in dwapar. Lord Hanumaan insisted lord Krishna to appear in Lord Rama’s form, which was fulfilled by him. It clearly proves mighty and supremacy of Rama..
2. Lord parshurama realised rama;s supremacy and took leave of lord rama saying that this yug belongs to you my role is over. what more to prove for rama’s supremacy
whose santity is not authentic.
3. in lanka war when ram ravan war begins and ravan fights from pushpak vomaan and lord bare foot without any rath forget pushpak vimaan. then indra the king of gods sends his own chariot to lord rama.
4. mahabharata actually not an epic it is collection of stories written by dofferent authors whose authenticity is not free from doubt. simlarly shrimad bhagwat gita tells lord krishna is the greatest. the real gods are brahma, vishnu and mahesh rest are incarnations of lord vishnu.
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Hey guys listen lord narayana apnekrishna avatar mein 16 ke16 guna leke aaye thhe
jabkirama avatar mein sirf 12 so conclusion is that Lord Krishna is more powerful than Shiva or Rama. SO… HARE KRISHNA
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I’m only 12yrs old so i might be wrong but Lord Krishna is most powerful and my favourite.
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Beta it’s not correct. Only Lord Rama and Lord Shiv were most powerful. Lord Krishna used the powers which he had acquired as incarnation of Lord Vishnu. But you are right Lord Krishna did a lot of Bal Leelas which is in real life do not woek.
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You are just 12 years old that’s why you are saying like that , beta krishna ne bahut jaadu dikhai isaka matlab ye nahi ke vo sabase takatvar the. God RAMA ke pass bhi 16 gunaas the lekin unhone jaan bujkar 4 gunaas hide kiye ,aur jyada jaadu yaniki leela nahi dikhai taki unaki maryada purushottam ki image rahe……………….God RAMA ka sirf naam hi itna takatvar he ki usake saamane krishna ki leela kuch bhi nahi …………………Mahadev Shankar , Brahma balki Khud Vishnu bhi raam naam ka jaap karate he……………………all gods pray god RAMA…………that’s why RAMA was powerful than any other god…….please read ramayana carefully……
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Abhishek , God Shri Rama ke paas bhi 16 gunas or qualities thi lekin unhone jan bhujkar 4 gunas chupaye taki unki maryada purushottam ki image rahe.Fully agreed with PC.
Abhishek, I have a suggestion for you.Please read ramayana carefully.I think you are reffering Geeta, that’s why you are saying like this. …………..Jai Shriram…………..
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No matter whether Lord Ramd had 16 qualities or not. In Hindus Lord rama’s name is always taken in all circumstances whether happiness, grief or Joy. Even at the death journey we say Ram Nam satya hai. Definitely Rama is greater. Lord Krishna’s leela’s are beyond reality. A man can not survive by playing fluts and doing raasleela with gopis. The actions of Lord Krishna beyond my understaning like killing innocent for earthy matters. Lord Rama knew that Karna is the real brother of Pandavas but he never revealed this fact to Pandavas. In fact except Yudhisthir all other Pnadavs were arrogant and high handed. Pandanavs and Draupadi had insulted both Karna and Duryodhan on many occasion.
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Krisna has 16 qualities then it matters for you and when i said RAMA has 16 qualities then it does not matter for you………………….there is a correction “not Lord Rama there must be Krishna knew that Karna is the real brother of Pandavas but he never revealed this fact to Pandavas. In fact except Yudhisthir all other Pnadavs were arrogant and high handed. Pandanavs and Draupadi had insulted both Karna and Duryodhan on many occasion.”
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My response is in general and for them those who give this immature arguement that only Lord krishna had 16 qualities. brother Pravin my response is not directed towards yours post.
You are right by mistake I mentioned lord rama it is to be read as lord krishna, who knew that Karna was real brother of Pandavas.
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hi jai shree krishna its time for corection sir rama and krishna both r the same its just that ki in different yug it is different avatars. At the time of ramayana krishna took form of rama and in gita as krishna.and bcoz of aadharm that war takes place otherwise arjuna and hiscompany have to beg and live its nit good as satriya. So krishna took avatar for good cause and what ever problems v get in daily life the solution is gita that is krishna’s words.jai shree krishna.
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praveen shinde he was lord vishnu who took 9 avtars and 10th will come soon……………he is not krishna who take avtar…………..and vishnu was rama in ramayana nad vishnu was krishna in mahabharata…………..aur jis geeta me likha he vo geeta pahale suryadev ne manu ko batayi thi usake baad manu ne ishvaku ko………………aur is tarah vo chalati rahi aur shriram unhi ke kul se he to unako pahale se hi geeta ka gyaan tha aur khud bhagvan the….isliye unhe geeta malum thi……………….par unhone geeta isliye nahi batayi kyonki vaisi situation hi nahi aayi……………….aur krishna ne isliye batayi kyonki us vakt arjun ko usaki jarurat thi……………aur rama ne aur ha krishna ne vishnu ko represent kiya he krishna ek aadmi ki tarah janma aur mara…………samaje to vishnu aur krishna ko ek mat kaho……………kahna he to rama aur vishnu ko ek kaho……………kunki rama vishnuka 7 va yaniki pahala purnavtar he
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oh God so many Gods!
I think Shiva is more powerful than Rama and Shiva defeated both Brahma and Vishnu.
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I follow the teachings of my guru who is inspired by swami vivekananda. Accordingly Lord Shiva, Lord Brahma and Lord Vishnu form the holy trinity of tat sat om.( Not quite clear on that concept yet but its clear that they are equal. ) I did quote the Vedas however I am not confident on the accuracy of the vedas as the Vedas have errored in some places. Rig veda says earth is stationary where as its proven fact that the earth revolves on its axis and around the sun. Its basis on the study Vedas and some spiritual people that
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sorry for typographical error. but in basis of vedas or some saints mentioned in the vedas that karna is challanged ie tried to be proven much inferior to pandavas. But if vedas are not accurate then cant really trust them.
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Niraj I am agree with you.But you did a mistake.You said that Lord Shiva is powerfull than Lord Rama.
Totally wrong,because Lord Shiva is devotee of Lord Rama and remeber it’s before the birth of Lord Rama.
Lord shiva chants name of God Rama.He also appeared in the form of Hanuman for devoting his god which is nothing but Rama.
Another thing is,you said that lord shiva had defeated lord brahma and lord vishnu.I didn’t know but when exam had taken between these three gods then in that exam,lord Vishnu had won.
God shiva has taken only 11 avatars but lord vishnu has taken total 24 avatars out of which 10 avatars are important and out of 10,two avatars are purnavatar(RAMA and KRISHNA),out of these 2,God Rama is the 1st purnavatar and krishna is 2nd.No doubt RAMA is superior than krishna.
For your kind information,Lord vishnu also chants name of RAMA.Rama is incarnation of Vishnu but name of Rama is very powerfull so it is taken byevery other Gods including krishna,brahma,indra,vayu,ganesh,saraswati and all of remaining gods.Also four Vedas take the name of God Rama.
This information is tken from Valmiki Ramayana,Tulasidas Ramayana,Bhagavat Ramayana(Eknathi bhagvat written by saint eknath)
Also when kalki avtar will appear it will be God Rama,because God Rama Had given promise to Vaishanavi devi in ramayana as,”When I will appear in kalyug as kalki avatar then I will marry you but now I can’t marry with you because Sita is my wife.”
Pepole says,kalki avatar will be krishna.But it’s not right. Krishna is Rama’s form. Rama is not the form of krishna.
Baki gods ki tarah God Rama kisi ek dharm ke nahi he.Shikh dharm me bhi Ram ka naam liya jata he.Kyonki saint kabir ek shikh the aur ve Ram bhakt the.
So no other god is superior than God RAMA.God RAMA is supreme power of all gods………………………………………………JAY SHRIRAM
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Sri Praveen.
Apparently there is a communication gap. To my humble knowledge nowhere I have mentioned Lord Shiva is more powerful than Rama. Its mr shiva statement on Lord Rama vs Krishna blog not mine. Ditoo for the remark Lord Shiva defeated brahma and Vishnu. Thanks anyway for agreeing with me on some points.
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Fully agreed with Praveen Ji’s views. This is clearly mentioned in Ramayana at many places. Lord Shiva abandoned Sati only due to the reason that she mistakenly tried to lord Rama’s power by posing to be Sita but Rama did recognised her Lord Shiva knew this and asked Sati that hereceforth she is like a mother to him.On second occassion while building Shiva temple at Rameshwaram where the famous bridge was built by Rama. Lord Shiva and Lord Rama both worshepped each other as their only God. Friends only lord Rama and Shiva are the real and supreme gods. Krishna and all are bachhas. Krishna always did bachkana actions. My believe is that the God is one. But based on our mythological and religious believes Lord Rama is supreme. In present times lord Rama’s teaching only will help Krishna’s teaching to kill otheres for your property and earthy matters will be desastrous.
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Dear readers . My search on the vedas was correct. Lord Krishna himself has
affirmed this in the Bhagavata (11.3.44) – “paroksa-vada vedo’yam” (The Vedas speak indirectly). Hence Bhima being glorified in vedas cant be authentic. However he was indeed a great hero. I see a lot of comparisons of various characters in mahabharata ie Karna Arjuna Bhima. We have to realise all had their own importance and heroic moments in the holy epic. Ye sab warriors hai mahalakshmi race course ke ghode naheen jinhe hum No 1 ya No 2 ya not 5th ya 6th rank karange.
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Niraj I am agree with you.But you did a mistake.You said that Lord Shiva is powerfull than Lord Rama.
Totally wrong,because Lord Shiva is devotee of Lord Rama and remeber it’s before the birth of Lord Rama.
Lord shiva chants name of God Rama.He also appeared in the form of Hanuman for devoting his god which is nothing but Rama.
Another thing is,you said that lord shiva had defeated lord brahma and lord vishnu.I didn’t know but when exam had taken between these three gods then in that exam,lord Vishnu had won.
God shiva has taken only 11 avatars but lord vishnu has taken total 24 avatars out of which 10 avatars are important and out of 10,two avatars are purnavatar(RAMA and KRISHNA),out of these 2,God Rama is the 1st purnavatar and krishna is 2nd.No doubt RAMA is superior than krishna.
For your kind information,Lord vishnu also chants name of RAMA.Rama is incarnation of Vishnu but name of Rama is very powerfull so it is taken byevery other Gods including krishna,brahma,indra,vayu,ganesh,saraswati and all of remaining gods.
This information is tken from Valmiki Ramayana,Tulasidas Ramayana,Bhagavat Ramayana(Eknathi bhagvat written by saint eknath)
Also when kalki avtar will appear it will be God Rama,because God Rama Had given promise to Vaishanavi devi in ramayana as,”When I will appear in kalyug as kalki avatar then I will marry you but now I can’t marry with you because Sita is my wife.”
Pepole says,kalki avatar will be krishna.But it’s not right. Krishna is Rama’s form. Rama is not the form of krishna.
Baki gods ki tarah God Rama kisi ek dharm ke nahi he.Shikh dharm me bhi Ram ka naam liya jata he.Kyonki saint kabir ek shikh the aur ve Ram bhakt the.
So no other god is superior than God RAMA.God RAMA is supreme power of all gods………………………………………………JAY SHRIRAM
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Hey guys listen lord krishna sabse takatwar hain kyonki. Krishna avtar mein bhagvan Narayan apne 16 ke 16 gunleke aaye thhe jabki rama avatar mein sirf 12 leke aaye thhe. that’s why… Hare Krishna!
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can u please name those additional qualities??
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I totally agree with you. Nothing is superior to Lord Shri Ram. He is perfect man and he used only the power which was need then. He had to act like a common man so he performed like a simple man. But when it was needed to show his velour he showed that he is himself Lord almighty. During the time of Lanka visit, he had to show his might to the god of sea and he appeared before him. Meaning of Ram is itself described that it is the name of person which is Brahma, Partmam, and Bhgwan. So, there is no any arguments on it that Lord Shri Krishna is also the form of Lord shri Ram and Lord Shri Ram and Shri Krishna are not two but he is one. Lord Shri Ram is called by jagad guru. One can see in Ramayan, Bhgavatam, Puraan, and in many more granths. ||Jay Shri Ram|
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Ram is powerful thanshiva shiv worships ram as his lord..!!! dahhhhhhhhhh.you gotta watch mythology carefuly and all of you who are supporting krishna…krishna worships shiva which means that shiv is more greater than krishna and lord shiva worships lord ram so lord ram is the Lord Of all Lords…!!!!!!!!!!!! Jai Raghunath
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Nice comments Rupak But didnt Sri Ram worship Shiva at rameshwaram? there are records of both paying homage to each other
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worshiping and praying is the nature of Lord. He says that anyone he/ she adores him the way he also takes attention of him/ her. Bhgavad Gita and Ramayan, . Lord Shri Ram is considered the adi purush so Lord Shiva always consideres lord shri Ram as his Swami. You can see it in Ramcharitra manas. So, the lord appeared for acting like a simple man lord shri Ram worships Lord Shiva. is simple thing. It does not have any affect on the nature and forms of Lord Shri ||Ram. Jay Siya Ram||
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Dar Rupak there is no competition between Lord Rama and Lord Shiva. Both worshipped each other. Lord Shiva went Ayodhya with Hanuman in lord Rama’s childhood to play with them as a madari and Hanuman ji played a monkey. Similarly, lord Rama built Rameshwar temple in his extreme respect for lord Shiva.
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Lord Rama was for everyone.Beyond relation,caste,creation and anything else. From Ahilya to Nishad to Sugreev to Vibhiyhan to Jamvant to Jatayu to numberless creatures some even Monkeys, bears etc during his exile Lord Rama helped everyone.None of them were related to him.
In the contrast Lord Krishna helped Pandava, Draupadi, Sudama etc who all were his relatives and nears and dear ones.
The Lord Rama has never played any politics he was humble,polite and a serious person. His supremacy was proved without any efforts by him. He never pose to be a god, yet he was addressed always with Lord. Evry god Mahadev, Brahmaji, Hanumanji worshipped him.
In the contrast Lord Krishna always played politics and diplomacy. As per Shrimadbhagvad he is the full incarnation of Vishnu with all 16 arts in him, though, whch I do n’t endorse. It is Lord Rama who is th most powerful god in human form. Lord Krishna never got so much respect from human and other creatures for being as lord Rama. Even before his departure from earth, the god Kaal had to come personally to take him. On the contrast, Lord krishna was killed by a hunter mistaken to be an animal.
Lord Rama though was a prince born with a silver spoon but always preferred to live difficlut life. Lord Rama, was an army in himself, a great warrier leading from the front. A unparellel archer a handsome man beyond imagination, an ideal son,idle father,ideal brother,an ideal king and an ideal husband and an ideal friend. A very straight forward and brave very cool and calm and if angreed with someone then no god can protect. Examples are numerious : Ravana was a Shiv divotee, Vali son of Surya when they facd Lord Rama no one could save them.
To live lord Rama’s life and to follow his ideals are really diffcult so some people do not want to follow them, they feel Krishna’ joyful life is ideal for them. But it is not so.
In Kalyuga, the ideals of Lord Rama are more relevant. It wll be in human benefit to propagate lord Rama’s ideals in Kalyuga to overcome the evils.
Jai Sri ram
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Quite well said.
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Dear Friends,
As per Indian mythology, Lord Rama and Lord krishna both are the incarnation of Lord Vishnu and both are equal. I have never understood the character of Lord Krishna. Today majority of people consider Lord Krishna greater than Rama. But actually if you see purely values and character played by both the gods are totally diffrent and from that point of view I do n’t consider Lord Krishna greater than Rama.A god should be greater than a human and possess higher qualities such as true speaking, foregiveful, unbiased etc. etc. so that people worship him and this follows higher social values. If you analysie lord Krishna character, I think only krish’s leelas make him popular among the masses whereas Rama’s qualities are so tough and difficult that human being finds it difficult to follow in life. SO natually Krishana leela are easy and short cut to happiness that’s why people more inclined towrads it. Some people even do n’t hesitate to criticize Rama for valibadh and Sita Tyag. But I think that is not correct. In my views, the comparison between rama and krishna on the following aspects clearly establish Lord rama as supreme god.
1. Purpose of Birth: As tought by Epics, Lord Rama birth was necessiated due to intense misdeeds of evils on earth by demons, whereDharti mata, Saints and public at large was terrified. So there was a geneine need of lord, birth to eliminate that. Krishna birth, history does n’t indiate any such critical requirements which requires any such avtaar, except, the Kansa outrages. but that again is a family matter.
However,krishna role is more eminent due to Mahabharat. But i question what was the need of Mahabharat at all. krishna should had either resolved the dispute or should remained neutral. Just because Pandava were reated to him and Duryodhna did like him Krishna allowed killing of thousands of people without any valied and humanistic cause. Duryodhana,s expecation to get back the kingdom of hastinapur can be ignored. Afterall, if his father could not become king beacuse of blindness , Duryodhana being son of elder brother was entitled to the throne.
Lord Krishna could have worked out a compromise formula or persuaded Pandavas to leave that place and estabish new capital. if they had the capabilty and strength they could have done it easily. The so called greats like Bheeshma, Dron, Bidur, Kripaharya were under total control of Lord Krishna and even being on Duryodhana Side they never acted in his interest. They should have left HAstinapur.
Sacrifice: Lord Rama excercised the principle of sacrifice and that is very important. Lord Rama sacrificed throne when it came peace in the family and harmonisation of relation. Here clearly the principle of lord Rama and Lord krishna reflect difference. Lord Rama sacrificed throne and Lord krishna incited Pandavas to kill cousins, own brother karna, Guru Drone and what not. The result is in front of us. Rama got back throne and Pandavas also got Throne but wthout own relatives and public at large.
3. Bravity:
Lord Rama was a great warrior he fought all the battles by leading from front and never killed an innocent and was a kind heatred warrior who used to give a last opportunity to every enemy before killing him.Krishna on the other hand never fought any significant battle and favoured his dear one Pandavas.
4. parameters of Friendship.
Lord ramas friends were generally a common and unknown men and caste,genders, creation do not matter. examples: Nishdraj (a Bhil) Sugreev and hanuman(monkey)Jamvand(Bear) Vibhishana(a demon) and Shabri(bhilni) rama gave credit to every small member of his army on the contrary krishna either took entire credit himself or made others to give all credit to him.
Truthfullness:
Lord Rma was a living example of truth and was capable to face any consequence.
Personal Traints:
Rama was a Lord but always lived like an ideal human being and was extremely powerful. Lord Shiva worshipped Rama., further the following contexts in the Ramayana itself speak about supremacy of Lord Rama.
Ahilya taran
Parashuram Garvharan.
Samundra garvharan.
Vaalibadh(Vali had a boon to obsorve half of the pwer of opponent)
Lord Shiva accepting that he is Rama’s devotee.
During exile, Lord rama met number of saints and made them free from tortures of demons
rama killed demons like tarka shubahu for cause of public interest(saints and for public welfare)
Rama killed extraordinary demons like Khara Dushana,Kumbhakaran and ravan hmself lord krishan never killed so renouned demons. In fact in Mahabharat time, there were no opponets of such fame.
rama is first prononciated by a human being in all circumstanaces whether grief or in joy.
Finally, in my view, comparison is not between Rama and Kishna but it is only in their avtaars. I am sure that today society needs the ideals, characters and conduct of Lord Rama.
Jai Shri Ram.
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Prakash i am agree with you,but krishna is not popular than Lord Rama .God Rama is more popular than krishna…..
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Praveen ji, you are right. But what I am saying is also a fact. The reason is simple. To conduct like Lord Rama is not easy for today’s society. Poeple find more masala in lord Krishna’s character the way it is presented by modern day sadhus/babs who have opened their shop in every TV channel now a days and in public domain they are giving pravachan by befooling innocent public in the pretext of pravachan on Lord Krishna. Every fine morning a new baba comes on tv channels with Radaha Krishna stories. the innocent public thinks that Lord krishna character is very usual. But Rama’s characer is cxample of supreme sacrifiace which is very difficult to follow and beyond capacity of human being. Otherwise lord Rama is most powerful and real lord who is worshipped by all gods and by Shankar Mahadev whom all other god worship. Similarly, without asking Lord Indra offers himslef in Lord Rama,s service when he had final war with lankesh who is fully equipped with pushpak Viman . Lord Rama was very popular as a king of Ayodhya as well and his subject was very loyal and loving to him..
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Heres wishing Dhruv and all the readers a happy janmasthami. May Lord Krishnas blessings be on all of us.
Best wishes
Niraj
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Guys you are all missing one thing is the essense of both the avatars
Rama life was sad and not at all happy. But he lived his life in complete tranquility not letting sorrows affecting his duties.
Krishna life was filled with opulence and luxury but he was never carried away in his happiness . He always did his duties with equanimity.
Both were stithpragya .. one should be like that not to be drowned by sorrow or happiness .
Avatars don’t come to earth for fame r luxury they come only for duties.As krishna said if he becomes attached to his karmas . The karma cycle will cease to exit.
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Jai Shri Ram………..
Whenever we do comparison between God Rama and krishna,we see only one side of coin.The main difference between Ramayana and mahabharata is,
Ramayana: Ramayana ‘grantha’ had written first by Valmiki under the guidence of God Brahma and then after some time it happened like written in ‘grantha’.
Mahabharata: It had happened first and then written by God Ganesha under the guidence of Vyas.
So, God Rama knew all the things that would happened in ramayana.
He knew how to kill ravana,vali,etc..
People said that God Rama killed vali by hiding behind the tree,but it had written in ‘grantha’.So, God Rama must have to kill vali like that.
The most important thing in ramayana is that;
when time of ‘sita haran’ was came God Rama gave Sitadevi to Agnidev for her security and Agnidev kept original Sitadevi and gave ‘chaya(maya)’ of Sitadevi to God Rama.So, ravana had stolen ‘chaya(maya)’ of Sitadevi not the original one.This was God Rama’s game to secure Sitadevi.
So, to take Sitadevi back from Agnidev it was necessary to gave ‘chaya(maya)’ of Sitadevi to Agnidev,we called this event as ‘Agni-Pariksha’.
Now I think all of you know for what reason ‘Agni-Parikha’ had taken by God Rama.
Again don’t forget all the events in Ramayana were happened according to ramayana ‘grantha’ or it was desire of God Rama.
Now turn to krishna……….
1) First important thing is ;krishna had broken the ‘Hindu-Dharma’ by permitting Draupadi as a wife of Pandavas(5 men).
According to ‘Hindu-Dharma’;one man can have several wives but one woman can have only one husband.This action was taken by pandavas due to krishna and this is against the ‘Hindu-Dharma’.
2)Everytime krishna lied in his life.Most of time this was for his benefit.
3) Mr. Sanjay patel I am sorry but you are wrong .Krishna married 16108 women not 16100.
16000 were captive in Bhasmasur’s jail but remaining 108 women were actually wives of krishna.Krishna had many childrens from these 108 wives and also from 16000 women.So we say that krishna married 16108 women.
4)Krishna also played ‘Raas-Lila’ which is not legal now a days.Krishna also flirted many women which were bigger in age than krishna.Also Radha was elder than krishna .These things are not legal now a days.
5)There are many ilegal things done by krishna.But all people always hide them only think that krishna is an ideal person.But I don’t think so.
We also know the death of krishna was very dangerous.
God Rama had taken ‘Jal-Samadhi’.Before that ‘Kal(mrityu)’ had taken the permission of God Rama about God Rama’s ‘Jal-Samadhi’.This was the power of God Rama.
Every god like Shiva,Brahma,Ganesha,Indra,Vayu,Varun,Surya prays god Rama.
Rama was Vishnu’s avatar but vishnu also prays God Rama.
In hindi……………….
“Ek baar Ram naam lena to sahastra baar Vishnu ka naam lene ke barabar he.Kalyug me agar moksh pana he to sab pandit yahi kahate he ki Ram naam hi sarvasreshtha he.Bhagwaan Shiv ne bhi jab vish piya tha tab unka shareer Saap,Chandra aur Ganga se bhi shant nahi huva par jab shiv ne Ram naam liya to unka shareer shant ho gaya.Tab se ve Ram naam ka hi jap karte he.Bhagwaan Ganesh jab apne pita ko dekhkar Ram naam liya to unko Bhagwaan Ram ne ashirvad diya ki unko jag me pratham puja jayega.
Hum kahate he ki Bhagwaan Hanuman Bhagwaan Ram ke sabse bade bhakt he,par Bhagwaan Ram ke sabse bade bhakt he Bhagwaan Shiv kyonki Bhagwaan Shiv ne Bhagwaan Ram ki bhakti karne ke liye hi Hanuman ke rup me avatar liya tha.
Mahabharat ke samay, Karna ne ek jaga Ram mandir banvaya tha vo aj bhi karna ghat pe he. Karna bhi bhagwaan Ram ki hi bhakti karta tha isliye usne Ram mandir banvaya tha.
Bhagwaan ram ka naam to har bhagwaan leta he aur hum to manav he.
Sab gujarati ye kahate he ki krishna vishnu ke sab avatar ke mul he par ye unka agyan he.Bhagwaan Ram Vishnu ke pahale purnavatar he aur vaise saatave avatar he aur krishna vishnu ke doosare purnavatar aur vaise athave avatar he.’Shriram Bhkti’ grantha me ye likha he ki Vishnu ke saare avataro ke mul Bhagwaan Shriram he naki krishna ” .
“Man can love milions of women but a real man loves only one woman in milion ways ”
According to me God Rama is an ideal for all human being.
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I agree. Krishna did everything against the law and nature but we say he was a supreme God. When God himself acts against the rule apparently not for any public cause that how can one justify that.Comparison between Lord rama and Krishna can be staraight forward be done on some basic qualities.Lord Rama edge over lord Krishna on almost all accounts. Lord Rama was born in a royal dynasty but live like an ordinary man. Lord Krishna born in an ordinary man but lived like a Royal.Lord Rama’s connection with any creature was like a friend and human but Lord Krishna presented always himself like a God. Lord Rama was worshipped by Lord Shiva and respected by all Gods and sagas but that is not with Lord Krihsna.Lord Rama was the extreme of qualities of an idle son, idle husband, idle king and an idle warrior.Lord Rama is close in every human and in our every moment of joy,sorrow and daze we first utter the word Rama. Rama always acted neutral and never acted against dharma.Rama spread the spirit of forgiveness and fairness.The application of the principles of Lord rama and Krishna can be compared by one example that is the situtaion in Ramayana and Mahabharata was almost the same but handling of the situations by Lordv rama and krishna changed the whole game.
Kaikeyi wanted throne for Bharata and finally she exiled Lord Rama for 14 years which Lord Rama happily accepted and lived in exile for 14 years facing all odds of life and finally received the throne and ruled Ayodhya for many years and even today the rule of Ramrajya is admired by every one.
On the contrary Lord Krishna incited Pandavas to fight the war against kaurava and adopted tactics to eliminate the invincible warriors like Bhism,Dron,Karna, Duryodhna by unfair means. By eliminating their own brothers and relatives Pandavas won the war and got the throne but Yudhister himself was feeling guilty. All pandavas and Lord krishna die terrible death. Lord Krishn’s kins fought among themselves and their whole dynasty finished in the war. the conclusion is that you the principles of Lord Rama are universally acceptable and valid in era even today.Lord rama single handedly defeated many powerful demons with their huge army. But Lord krishna though pledge not to lift a weapon in Mahabharata war but helped Pandavas indirectly through free advisory and most of them unethical just beacuse they were his relatives.
Lord Rama’s deed land and canvas was much exhaustive and extesive which started from Ayodhya to Janakpuri,then exile, Lanka whre he met diffrent personalities did friendship with monkeys,nishad,sugreev, bibhishana and salvaged many cursed personalities and creatures. Lord rama defeated many demons which had god gifted boons and invincible.
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Jai Shri Krishna.
Shri Sanjay Patel thank you for your offer to help me. I have read the final Karna Arjuna battle of the Gujrati version which you have posted. I want to
know just a few details about Karna. First I want to know about his wifes name in the Gujrati version. Also I would want to know about his sons. Their names and what becamo of them
best regards
Niraj Sharma
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Jai Shri Krishna
Thank you Mr. Sanjay Patel. I am extremely greatful to you for enlightening me on the greatness of Shri Krishna and dispelling my ignorance. I would like to know more about Gujrati version of Mahabharata. Who is the author ?
And more about Karna also from the Gujrati version.
best regards
Niraj Sharma
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Mr. Niraj
Jai Sri Krishna,
I am glad that you liked Krishna’s information. There is lot more, but I just wrote some of the main information. The author of Gujarati version of MB is Surajram Vallabhram and it was translated in 1869. If you ever have a chance read Baghwat Puran, which shows lot of information about Krishna. I have written about Karna, here and I plan to write more so keep on letting me know that you like it. The next post that I plan to post is ” Laxagrah ” ( Wax Mansion ) because I saw a topic about Bhim’s intelligence. If you ever need to ask me anything else, please let me know, I will be glad to help.
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Lord Krishna
Krishna did not lie, when he was a child and he was not a Makhan chor. Kans was taking all the makhan from Gokul and many children were not getting enough food to eat. Krishna, by breaking all the pots, used to take blame on himself, but used to give all the starving children makhan. Many times Krishna would rub makhan on his face, to take blame, while giving makhan to others. Look at all the greatness of Krishna, and still he is not telling a lie when he is saying that he has not eaten makhan.
Krishna stopped Indra puja because it is not right for a dev to give rain in return for worship. Krishna lifted Govardhan mountain with the samllest finger, but at that time he had asked all the Gop balaks to raise their sticks and hold the mountain. Even though Krishna had lifted the mountain, he said that all of us together lifted it. Krishna did the work, but gave credit to others.
Kans sent a demon named Aghasur ( python demon ) who took everyone in his mouth and killed them, but Krishna went in his mouth on purpose and killed him. Krishna also brought all the Gop balaks back to life.
When Kali Nag killed many cows and calves by poisoning the water, Krishna brought them back to life.
When Krishna killed Kans and freed his father,mother, and grandfather, he made all the other sons of Devki ( his elder brothers ) alive. Even thoug Krishna freed Mathura from Kans and the people asked that Krishna be King, he placed his grandfather Ugrasen on the throne.
When Krishna and Balram learned 64 talents in 64 days from Guru Sandipani, they brought his dead son back from Yamapuri.
Jarasandth attacked Mathura 17 times with 27 akshoni sena and was defeated by Krishna and Balram. On 18th time, in order to honor Brahmin Rishies, and to protect people of Mathura, Krishna ran away on purpose. During the battle with Jarasandth, Krisna made Balramji the commander of the Army instead of himself.
Even though, Dwarka was built, Krishna made Balramji the protector of Dwarka instead of himself.
Because of Krishna the Pandavs were victorious everytime.
Krishna never kidnapped any women unless they asked him to come to their rescue.
Krishna married 16,100 women that were captive in Bhamasur’s jails. The women told Krishna that help us, now we have do not have any place to go.
In Ramayan, the dhobi threw his wife out, and in MB, Shalva does not accept Abma so we can see that men did not accept women that have been with other man. But, Krishna accepts all the women that have been with Bhamasur.
Bhamasur is son of Great Vishnu and Bhoomidevi but Krishna kills him ( his own son ) to save innocent women. Look at the greatness of Krishna.
Krishna never takes anyones kingdom.
After defeating Bhamasur, Krishna does not take his kingdom, but places his son Baghdatta on the throne.
After defeating Jarasandth, ( by Bhim ) Krishna places Jarasandth’s son Shadev on the throne.
Krishna helps perform the Rajsuya and Ashwameg yagnas to praise Yudhisteer.
Krishna values Bhisma even greater than his own relatives.
MB was won because of Krishna not because of Pandavs.
In Ashwameg yatra, Arjun and his armies are killed by Babruvahan, but Krishna tells Babruvahan where to get the mani which will bring everyone back to life.
Krishna uses the Chakra to destroy Ashwattam’s Brahmastra to protect Parikshit.
When Ghandari cursed Krishna, he accepts it and uses for good. The Yadavs were also becoming evil so Krishna decides that it is time to destroy them in order to protect innocent people. At this time, Krisna uses Ghandari’s curse for good of others.
When Pandavs and Kauravs both together attack Dwarka to protect King Daangav, Krishna makes all the soldiers alive on both side.
In Gujarati version of MB, Pandavs do not insult Karna, Karna tried to protect Draupadi not Vikarna, and Bhim does not stop over Duryodone’s head.
There are some stories about Pandavs that are not in any MB, but they are in Baghwat Puran – Balramji uses plough to shake Hastinapur, Arjun and Karna fails to shoot the fish in a different Matsya vedhan ( not Draupadi ) but Krishna performs it. When Krishna is marring a princess, Arjun helps him.
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Dear Sanjay,
my knowledge about Krishna is not good. Actually I do not consider him a god like Lord Rama, Vishnu or Shiv, no matter what Bhagwat Puran and all says about him.If he knew Karna is brother of Pandavas and Pandavas kept on insulting Karna through out his life.WHy did’n’t Krishna intervened. Why was he so biased for Pandavas againat Kauravas. Why he married so many wives agaunst the lord’s traditions like Vishnu, Rama Siva and others had single wife. Actually dharma was at its lowest at the time of Lord Krishna. One way he will justify killing of Dronacharya,Bheeshma, duryodhan and Karna by unfair means and on the other hand he will punish Ashwathama on taking revenge of his father’s killing. What justification is this.
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Baghwan Sri Ram
Lord Ram shot Vali by hiding behind trees. Lord Rama had no choice but perform this act because Vali had a boon that whoever comes to fight him will lose half of the power to Vali. Baghwan Ram tells Vali that he is a representative of King Bharat and if someone breaks the rules, he has the right to punish that person.
Lord Ram also tells Vali that daughter, son’s wife, brother’s wife, and sister are all considered same. If someone does something inappropriate to them, that person deserves to die. Vali had forced Sugreev’s wife to stay with him.
Lord Ram tells Vali that a younger brother is like a son and if treated badly, that person has committed a sin. Baghwan shows Vali all his faults at the time of his death. Baghwan also tells Vali that in my next avatar, you ( Jara the hunter ) will shoot me ( Krishna ) in the same way. ( Writing on the wall of the temple, where Krishna was shot )
Lord Ram makes Laxmanji take Sita Mataji to the jungle.
From this we can see, that even Dhobi had the right to speak up in Ram rajya, while in Ravan rajya, even the ministers were scared. Baghwan Ram listens to his people and than makes the dicision about Sitaji Tyag. In order to serve his people, Sri Ram even abandons his wife.
During the ceremony, a wife was supposed to sit by Sri Ram. Baghwan Ram makes a statue of Mata Sitaji instead of accepting another wife so it shows that Sri Ram abandons Queen Sitaji but not his wife Sitaji.
In order to praise Indra, after defeating Ravana, Baghwan Ram prays and says that Surpati, many vanars have died in helping me so please rain your amrit and make them alive. Even though, Indra rains amrit which makes all the vanars alive but by Baghwan Sri Ram’s blessings all the dead rakshases disappear.( Baghwan Sri Ram had given them moksh )
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Baghwan Ram tells Vali that he is a representative of King Bharat and if someone breaks the rules, he has the right to punish that person.
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so what
Vali himself have his own Kingdom and Vali is not part of King Bharat’s empire.
And elder brother’s wife is like Mother but Sugreev also did the same what Vali done to Sugreev’s wife.
And Sita Tyag was the biggest mistake and later on Lord Rama also regretted.
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Hi Dhruv,
u r misleading brother, the ideal life for every human being is Lord Shrirama. Let me clarify u r doubts.
1. vaali vadh: Sugriv not forcefully kept Thara. It is common in Vaanaras to keep brothers wife and it is also said in Ramayan, but vaali forcefully sent sugriv out of his kingdom and kept his wife ruma. Which is absolutely wrong in everyway, incase of Vaali, so he deserves the punishment. So thats why Shri Rama punished vaali.
2. Seetha Agni Pravesh: Seetha kept in ashok vanam for 11 months by Ravan. So it is common for everyone to think about Sita’s chastity. The only one person who believes sita is a chaste wife is Shri Rama. If you read Vaalmiki Ramayan completely , you know the essence of Shri Rama. Shri Rama asks whereabouts of sita to mountains, air,water,birds and everything that stands in his way of searching sita.
So, he doesn’t want someone to hurt sita’s heart and her feelings. He is full confident that she is pure, thats why he ordered sita to enter fire.
Sita Tyaag: only a few persons witnessed the sita entering the fire,after ravan vadh. After coronation of Shri Rama’s kingdomship, he heard lot of people saying that sita is abducted by ravan and having doubts about her chastity.
So , he doesn’t like “Yadha Raja Thadha Praja”. He doesn’t want someone to blame sita’s chastity and he also doesn’t want to enter fire again and again infront of people. Shri Rama loved Sita so deeply right after the marriage. He doesn’t have any option to sacrifice sita. In Ashvamedha yagna he made golden statue of sita and kept it beside when performing the yajna.
Now a days no one is looking into the reports given by people in the police stations and courts. But Shri Rama loooked into the report even that case is not present in his court, so how great he is.
Jai Shri Ram.
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Hi Sri,
I admire Lord Shri Ram a lot, an ideal human being in all aspects.
1. vaali vadh: Sugreev also kept wife of Vali who is like mother to him.
2. Seetha Agni Pravesh: At this time Ram have to set an example for his praja rather then discarding Sita. Thats the reason of women’s sufferings in Hindu Dharm till now.
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According to vanara dharma, A vanar can accept his sibling’s wife as his wife if his male sibling dies..that dharma only for vanaras..not for humans.. so no wrong of sugreeva by accepting tara as his wife.. but vali forcibly enjoyed sugreeva’s wife even his brother alive..this was wrong..
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I admire Lord Ram more because his life style was more simple than Sri Krishna ie one wife. Lord Krishna had many wives. Lord Ram valued life of living beings more than Lord Krishna. After killing Ravan various gods aproached him to congratulate him and he asked one of them to revive all the vanaras slain in the war. Lord Krishna revived only Pariksheet after the mahabharata battle. Lord Ram was known to chasitise his loved ones when they were misbehaving. In banvaas when Bharat came to meet them Lakshmana got angry thinking Bharat has come to attack them. Lord Ram immidiatly curbed Lakshmana. Lord Krishna never stopped Bhima Arjuna or Draupadi from using insulting language to Karna although Lord Krishna knew Karna to be the elder brother of the Pandavas. Even when Bhima stamped on the head of Duryodhana after hitting that foul blow on his thigh there is no record of Lord Krishna reprimanding Bhima. It was Balram who scolded Bhima. Lord Ram never lied. Lord Krishna for human benefit has lied and in his child hood days also has lied. In forgiveness also I feel that Sri Ram has displayed a higher ability. He completely forgave Manthara and Kaikeyi who were directly responsible for his father Dashrathas death and protected them from the wrath of Bharat and Ayodhya subjects. Lord Krishna did not protect Vikarna the innocent Kaurava brother who objected to Draupadis insult from Bhima just becoz he was fighting on the side of adharma. Please dont get me wrong. I am not critisizing Shri Krishna. Nor am I saying that He was superior to Lord Ram. But Lord Ramas lifestyle was superior to that of Lord Krishnas life style. Both are infinetly great but becoz of circumstances Lord Ram cuts a more impressive figure.
Best regards
Niraj
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Nice comments
And I am 100% agreed with you. Lord Rama’s life is a ideal life except 2-3 glitches like Bali and Sita Tyag else Rama lived a perfect life. Krishna’s life is way different.
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Dhruv i think you haven’t much more knoledge of Ramayana
Firstly Rama didn’t killed vaali hiding behind the trees because arrow was thrown by standing in front of vaali and arrow was attacked in vaali’s chest.
Also sita tyag was necessary at taht time and this decision was taken by sitadevi and not by god ramaif you read the valmiki ramayan carefully then you will know the greatness of god Rama…….
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Pravin Jagtap was exactly right…this was written by valmiki in his version
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adhora gyan niraj bhaiya.
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Manta hoon ki adhura gyan khatarnak hota hai. Both are avtars of Sri Vishnu. Will take a liberty of giving a filmy example. Salman Khan plays roles in 2 movies. Chulbul Pandey in Dagangg. Lovely Singh in bodyguard. Arguing the Salman in dabangg was superior to the salman in body guard is a little hypothetical because the actor is the same. Just that in one movie he is playing one role in another movie playing another.
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